Question

[toyotaowner]

My car has lots of swirls on it and I'm wondering if I should purchase DACP to get it out or will a combination of #80 and ColorX each with a polishing pad with PC at #5 help?

It's somewhat severe. I am willing to purchase just one more liquid (my wife is starting to look at me differently now with this new hobby ) but DACP is a lot of liquid. Maybe more than I need. I'm pretty sure Speed Glaze can manage most of the time leaving me with 32oz of liquid that's not going to be used a lot.

Any suggestions? Maybe I can try something else. Or maybe I can attain #83 in a smaller quantity.

[travisdecpn]

If the swirls are really severe it is probably going to take #83 and the polishing pad via pc. #80 is okay if the swirls are fairly light, but it will not remove heavy swirls with a pc. Also, colorx is a chemical cleaner that is designed to remove oxidation not swirls and scratches. I would go for #83 personally and push for the #80 as well.

[Boss_429]

Well, the DACP is certainly more likey to get out the swirls than #80 and/or ColorX if the swirls are bad. However, why not try a couple passes with the #80 to see how it works............. then go from there.

[toyotaowner]

I'm ordering a new pad kit and some other supplies and wanted to see should I purchase it all at once (to save on shipping).

I can't currently test anything since it's too cold and it just snows and snows.

Mike showed me a thread where he did a 1940s Ford or maybe something coupe where he used only ColorX and a hand pad and got some swirls out. Maybe I can dig it out.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4564

Found it.

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

Meguiar's ColorX contains both chemical cleaners as well as diminishing abrasives. However, it is not that aggressive but will remove light marring. However your description of the swirls, if 2 passes with #80 Speed Glaze does not remove the marring, you will need to use #83 DACP. And even then, some swirls will beyond what a PC can handle and will require the use of a rotary buffer.

So, as the others have said, try a couple of passes with #80 first. If that does not work, #83 will be then needed.

Tim

[toyotaowner]

It's painful to look at.

[JeffM]

I am a big fan of 83, so if you buy it and have some left that you want to sell off, pm me

[Tim Lingor]

Hey toyotaowner

Well, looking at that picture, I would say that you will need #83 DACP to remove the marring. Though I would still try #80 first, I would bet that you will need the #83.

Keep us posted!

Tim

[toyotaowner]

The picture actually shows very little damage. You should see my trunk lid and the roof.

And I do have lots of etching. Maybe I can spend the $18.99.

Too bad Meguiars doesn't offer a smaller quantity for people like me.

The pic is my Camry and my Sienna has light swirls and I am afraid of removing too much clearcoat so I'm guessing #80 and ColorX is most likely enough

Also, can you polish too much and remove too much clearcoat? What problems can arise from that. Too me, the #83 seems a bit too aggressive. Any insight. I surely don't want any liquid go to waste.

[Boss_429]

toyotaowner,

I would agree with Tim.......... based on that last picture, you'll probably need #83, especially if you say there are areas that are even worse. Keep in mind that you don't have to use #83 over the entire vehicle.......... just where it is needed.

To answer your other questions........... Yes, you can over polish and remove too much clear coat. Keep in mind that #83 is still a "mildly" abrasive polish when compared to some other products, and if used properly, you shouldn't have any problems. Of course, I wouldn't recommned using it "frequently"!

[toyotaowner]

How would a monthly cleaning be? Too much? Of course only if needed. Or Maybe #83 1/2 a year with #80 and ColorX in between?

Guess I might need to get another polishing pad too.

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

I would suggest using #83 about 2 times per year, and #80 about 4 times per year. After that, as long as a person is careful on how it is washed and dried, the paint should be just fine!!

Tim