Ultimate Compound Enquiry

[raymond88]

I've just recently purchased Ultimate Compound to remove my swirls and scratches. I must say it works really well, and i've been using it hand applied with the applicator pad. But needs some pressure with your palm to get it working well and a few passes.

Anyway i know this is abit of a newb question but after you have removed the scratch, or reducing its visibility by like 90%. Does it stay that way forever?

I know some scratch removers just fill in the scratch and after a few washes it can reappear.

Will i not have to reapply ultimate compound if i have done it correctly and removed it enough? Just wanted to clarify things.

Thanks alot
Great product though.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

Ultimate Compound removes scratches by abrading paint, not by filling it in. The results you have should be permanent. You can always try a 50/50 water/isopropyl alcohol wipe down though to verify.

[wewe98]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

Well, 1st, congratulations... it seems like you did it correctly...

the question of your answer is YES!

But you must understand that swirl or scratch can come from the way you wash your car..

Even the correct way of washing your car can not guarantee 100% swirl free... so you may re-apply UC after 6-12 months when you think there are too many swirl in your car...

You may also refer to the links below:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37320

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7228

[raymond88]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

Thanks for the quick reply.

That's good to hear. Thanks for the info. I will either wait till my next few washes to see if anything returns. As i dont have any wipes that i can mix to test it out. But im guessing it should be pretty much fixed now.

Also put some NXT Tech Wax 2.0 after UC and it looks really shiney and reflective now.

[raymond88]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

Thanks for the links.

Is it ok for the applicator pad to start squeeking slightly once you have worked UC into the paint enough? Does it mean the compound/polish has broken down enough?

Looked fine to me after it was done. But wasn't sure if i had put to much pressure with my palm.

Cheers

[wewe98]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

Thanks for the links.

Is it ok for the applicator pad to start squeeking slightly once you have worked UC into the paint enough? Does it mean the compound/polish has broken down enough?

Looked fine to me after it was done. But wasn't sure if i had put to much pressure with my palm.

Cheers

it seems like the product dry already, the sounds come from the dry pad, I guess. don't let it dry.

you may refer to this link:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39264

It is will be great if you can spare your time read many good threads on Information Station Section.

Happy detailing!

[raymond88]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

I had used UC on my parents corolla, but tried to recently use it on my own car. But doesn't seem to remove the scratches as easy. Im trying to remove scratches on my roof that i got when the roller came down on my car, they aren't that deep as i can't feel them that obviously with my nail.

That was with about 5-6 passes of UC now, with moderate to firmer pressure. I don't know if i should do anymore as i don't want to take to much off the paint. Is it safe to do more then 5-6 passes of UC? Im working by hand still.

I can mainly just see the scratches at a low angle with the direct light that reflects off off the car from the garage light. Though in the day light it is not really visable.

I guess i could try another 2-3 passes but i dun want to work on it to much if its not going to do much more.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

What you're experiencing is the difference in hardness of paint between your car and your parents' car. Welcome to the world of paint care!!!

If you've given UC a good, serious working for 5 or 6 passes and the scratches are still there (even though diminished in appearance) then you've probably reached the limit of what you're going to accomplish with that product. You say you can feel these scratches but not all that easily. Still, if you can feel them at all that's usually an indication that they are deep enough to pose a major challenge to full removal. Without taking on a much more aggressive process you may be at the end of what you can accomplish by hand.

And, yes, it is possible to go through the clear coat when working by hand. Without seeing/feeling just how deep these scratches are we would recommend you hold off at this point rather than continue on. It sounds as though you've made good progress and greatly diminished the appearance of these scratches - and sometimes that's the best, and smartest, thing you can do.

[raymond88]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

I had a go at a few more passes with more direct pressure to the scratch itself working in smaller areas this time, and it seemed to make tha appearance of the scratches alot less then it started off as, but i think it won't get to much better as you said by hand. I had fairly sore arm the next day with the efffort i put in,haha. But looks really shiney now and still feels pretty smooth. Scratches are less visable at an angle now, but parts of the scratch are still there.

I think i won't do anymore by hand, either just leave it for now or get it finished off professionally. By for the mean time hit it with some NXT 2.0 Tech Wax to protect it.

[scanlessfool]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

What you're experiencing is the difference in hardness of paint between your car and your parents' car. Welcome to the world of paint care!!!

If you've given UC a good, serious working for 5 or 6 passes and the scratches are still there (even though diminished in appearance) then you've probably reached the limit of what you're going to accomplish with that product. You say you can feel these scratches but not all that easily. Still, if you can feel them at all that's usually an indication that they are deep enough to pose a major challenge to full removal. Without taking on a much more aggressive process you may be at the end of what you can accomplish by hand.

In this case, after giving UC 5 or 6 passes, would you then recommend using 105? I ask because I always remember what you said from the Saturday class, start with the least aggressive.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Compound Enquiry

In this case, after giving UC 5 or 6 passes, would you then recommend using 105? I ask because I always remember what you said from the Saturday class, start with the least aggressive.

Yes. If working with a D/A the next step up would either be M105 on a W8207 Soft Buff 2.0 foam polishing pad, or even the DA Microfiber System - D300 on a DMC5 microfiber cutting disc.