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  • Michael Stoops
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    Re: Taking a week to get everything done

    OK, quite a few different things going on here.

    First off, it looks as though you've got a few areas that are beyond repair with what you have on hand, and probably beyond repair without some spot sanding and maybe even painting. Those are things you probably don't even want to consider at this point. Instead, concentrate on correcting the vast majority of the swirls, fine scratches, etc rather than those couple of nasty gouges on the bumper and side. Both of those look like they're deep enough to have removed a substantial amount of paint. And the cracking on the portion of the bumper that's hanging a bit loose can only be fixed by sanding it down and repainting. Again, probably not something you want to tackle at this point.

    As for the paint transfer you removed, it would seem you did an outstanding job of getting the actual transferred material off your car, but maybe got a bit too aggressive in the process. It is very likely that this car has what we would call "delicate" paint and that Ultimate Compound is maybe a bit more aggressive than you need. Before we accept that as fact, however, let's look at your application method:
    • What kind of applicator did you use? Terry cloth is very aggressive and that material itself can cause the kind of hazing you're seeing.
    • How aggressively did you work the Ultimate Compound? If you were scrubbing pretty hard to get that paint transfer off, you could inflict a lot of marring too, almost regardless of the pad. If you used a foam wax applicator pad, go over the area again with UC but go easy, and work it for several minutes. Really ease up on the pressure toward the end of the process.
    • Since you have that sample bottle of Cleaner Wax, try applying that with a foam applicator to the hazed area and see what, if any, improvement you get.

    If you find that even with a foam applicator and light pressure you still have marring, then UC may indeed be too aggressive for this paint. That's not common, but it does happen. And sometimes hand application can exacerbate the situation, too. Read through The Challenge of Delicate Paint to get an idea how to approach this paint when working by hand. You may need a two step process here since those swirls look pretty heavy - that means you may need the punch of Ultimate Compound to remove them, even though it will haze the paint, and then something like SwirlX or ColorX to clean up the hazing. That's what we did on the Honda in the article on delicate paint, and it came up great. You can use the NXT Tech Wax 2.0 after the ColorX to gain some gloss, protection and durability.

    Whatever you do, don't let that M01 Medium Cut Cleaner touch that paint, especially when working by hand!

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  • Murr1525
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    What did you use to apply the UC with in the 2 & 3 pic?

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  • zobie02
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    A lot of pictures! I am posting a bunch of pictures here so you guys have an idea what I am dealing with. I also might have possibly messed something up while experimenting so I want to get some opinions on this as well.

    I had some paint transfer or something on my front bumper



    So I read on here, and I washed the area, used some clay bar, used some Ultimate compound, polished it, and then waxed it. The paint transfer came off, but it is not shiny anymore, and is hazy. I was expecting it to do away after polish and wax (NXT Tech paste) but it didn't. Pic are below.



    Higher resolution pic



    I also have this on my rear bumper that I want to get rid of





    And this one the side of my car that just appeared in the past few days, that I also want to get rid of.



    Below are some overall pictures of my car so you can see the mess that I have

















    The above picture is a picture from the top on to my trunk area

    Something is happening to my paint in this below picture, and I need to fix that bumper as well by putting it up properly.



    I did recently restore my headlights and I think they look pretty good, what do you guys think, picture is below.



    I also have some interior pictures below







    And finally, these are the products I currently have. Some of that mothers stuff is stuff I bought a long time ago, but I still intend on using it. The only thing that is new is the clay bar and that's because when I typed in clay bar in the search bar on the advance auto parts website, that's the only thing that came up :P



    How do you guys think I need to proceed. How to I fix my front bumper area that has lost it's shine after Ultimate Compound, how do I fix some of the other area's with the issues, and overall fix my paint on my car. Any comments and suggestions would be awesome. Thanks a lot!

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  • Murr1525
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    Re: Taking a week to get everything done

    Black Towels? Fancy....

    But you will want the similar soft foam pads for the other steps as well.

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  • Michael Stoops
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    It comes with the appropriate applicator pad and a microfiber towel. You might want to wash the supplied black microfiber towel separately first, however, as it will tend to bleed a bit and tint your other towels. Just an FYI.

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  • zobie02
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    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    Ultimate Wax is our newest fully synthetic product. NXT used to be our longest lasting, best protecting product but UW has since taken over that spot.

    The paste version goes on almost like warm butter and dries pretty quickly; wipe off is very easy once dry. It is very important to not over use this, or any, wax. When using a paste wax, when you're done waxing the whole car (or even two whole cars) the contents of the can should almost look like it hasn't even been touched.
    Thanks! It says that an applicator is included. I was recommended to use a soft foam applicator to put it on, is that what is included? Or do I need to purchase another applicator? Thanks again.

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Ultimate Wax is our newest fully synthetic product. NXT used to be our longest lasting, best protecting product but UW has since taken over that spot.

    The paste version goes on almost like warm butter and dries pretty quickly; wipe off is very easy once dry. It is very important to not over use this, or any, wax. When using a paste wax, when you're done waxing the whole car (or even two whole cars) the contents of the can should almost look like it hasn't even been touched.

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  • Murr1525
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    The Ultimate one is new... havent got reviews of it on here yet really.

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  • zobie02
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    I was just at the store going to buy some stuff, like NXT tech wax paste and beside it was sitting Ultimate wax paste. How is this one? Is this one better? It was a little bit more expensive, but I'd rather have the better one. Opinions, comments?

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  • gmc1500
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    it takes me about 12 hours to correctly do a paint correction detail (with a dual action polisher) on a triple stage factory red Cadillac paint. Wash, clay, prep (tape all moldings and lenses off), ultimate compound, NXT wax, clean interior (all purpose cleaner plus), gold class leather cleaner/conditioner, ultimate protectant on all interior panels and polish the wheels and exhaust tips with hot wheels mag and aluminum polish.

    No polish for me since I have clear coat!

    After that I take a shower and go out for some much needed cruising on the streets of Los Angeles. You may feel a little tired but its well worth it!

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  • prbrianpr
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    Well Im working the car by Rotary buffer to compound and polish it, It takes me like 1 hour 30 minutes to do the hood (Compound, polish, waxing). It takes to me 20 minutes to wash my car that never gets too dirty. So if you want to wash, clay, polish (compounding and polishing) and waxing it to a like new paint state and all that by hand, you will spend several days. For me, compounding by hand is a pain.

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  • wifpd4
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    Originally posted by zobie02 View Post
    Thanks! Maybe I will, I'm I don't know if medical school would care about me knowing how to detail cars, but hey, you never know.
    Ha, joke's on me. I guess when I visit Mayo or University of Iowa Clinics, car detailing isn't a major concern for me in reviewing my doctors' career history!

    Follow Murr's advice, you can't go wrong.

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  • Murr1525
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    Originally posted by Andy M. View Post
    Matt,

    Don't you work by hand? Can you tell us your steps, especially since this member is working by hand and not machine? What products do you think work best by hand and such....

    Andy
    Well, some hand, some G100...

    Giving the car a basic detail to start off, you would be looking at a process like:

    1. Wash - Gold Class Soap, 2 buckets, good towels/sponges, Grit Guard
    2. Clay - Smooth Surface Clay kit
    3. ColorX

    And at least then your car will look ok, be able to see what you are working on.

    Then for your actual defect removal from the panels, you would be looking at products like SwirlX and Ultimate Compound. As mentioned, it is safest to try the mild product (SwirlX) first, then move stronger if needed. But you'll probably need UC working by hand. So you would use UC with a few well worked in applications on each panel, then apply 2 coats of wax. Probably Nxt 2.0 or the new Ultimate Wax.

    Then like I mentioned, in a week or two or three, when you have all your panels done, a wash and UQW can help even everything back out.

    With all the defects removed, a future detail then would go pretty fast:
    1. Wash
    2. Clay if needed
    3. ColorX
    4. Wax - Nxt 2.0, or Ultimate Wax, etc.

    And you would be looking at using the smooth foam applicators (round yellow discs) for applying the cleaners, waxes, etc.

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  • zobie02
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    Originally posted by wifpd4 View Post
    zobie, permit me to make this slightly off-topic observation and advice. You go dude! Employers are looking for people like you! Document this car cleaning process and keep it for your resume'. Heck what am I saying, you be a business owner not an employee!

    It will take awhile to complete the car properly. With your time constraints, doing it right the first time is the way to go.
    Thanks! Maybe I will, I'm I don't know if medical school would care about me knowing how to detail cars, but hey, you never know.

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  • rapport25
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    For me to detail my VW passat it has taken me 5 days. If you are limited on time as you described 2hrs free. I would simply do one panel at a time untill you are happy with the finish. Then move on to another panel

    As always use the least aggrressive method to get the job done. And do a test spot first.

    Hth's

    Rappy

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