is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? thanks

[7lennon6]

just painted my car black. can't wax for a couple of weeks. need my car for work so i have to drive it and can't prevent bird poop or anything on it. the poop left a small etching in my paint job & i'm nervous i'm going to have all these marks (a shade lighter than my black paint job) on it... is meguiar's nxt generation tech wax 2.0 good for protecting paint from nature's wrath (rain, droppings, sap, bugs, tar...)? thanks for any input here!

[BS MXRacer]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

Yes it will offer protection for the paint though being as you just painted your vehicle wait the recommended amount of time for the solvents in the paint to have fully evaporated before waxing. If you're not sure how long the best way to find out is ask the person/shop who painted your vehicle to get the time it takes to fully cure. Before you do any waxing once the recommended period of time has passed (typically 30-90 days) I would do a couple of things first:

1. wash
2. clay surface
3. paint cleaner (removes the etchings from droppings, water, bugs, etc. if you have any)
4. Wax (2 thin coats is recommended with preferably 12 hours in between them so that the first coat can have properly cured first).

[Markus Kleis]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

Keep in mind that each and every wax/sealant out there is an incredibly thin micro layer that is essentially intended to act as a sacrificial barrier to avoid damage to the paint.

I haven't heard of a wax yet that is 100% bird bomb proof...the acids in the droppings can be incredibly harsh, obviously, and if they can etch deep into hard paint an ultra thin layer of wax can only do so much.

That said, it certainly helps and is better than nothing. If you act fast, it will most likely make the difference you are after.

[J. A. Michaels]

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If you just had your car painted. It is recommended that you let the paint out gas for a period of 45 -90 days. While the paint is out gassing. Just wash and occasionally use a polish on the paint. No wax during the out gassing stage. Check with the body shop for there recommendation of how long to wait.

Now after the paint is ready, you can certainly use nxt 2.0. However as Mark stated. Nothing gives absolute protection from bird bombs. You will still have to tend to them as soon as possible.

[Michael Stoops]

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I haven't heard of a wax yet that is 100% bird bomb proof...the acids in the droppings can be incredibly harsh, obviously, and if they can etch deep into hard paint an ultra thin layer of wax can only do so much.

This is a VERY thing to keep in mind. In order for any wax or sealant to be impervious to the effects of something that can actually etch paint, the wax or sealant would have to be harder/stronger than the paint itself.

[Spidey]

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I don't know why body shops never tell you not to wax before the recommended 30-90 days... What adverse reactions could possibly happen if you wax without waiting.. I know I have done it before with previous cars, with no signs of anything bad happening.

[bmrfan]

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Waxing / sealing fresh paint within the 30 - 90 days MAY cause hazing, softening, or in extreme cases localized bubbling of the paint.

I have personally seen a car that was waxed less than 30 days after painting develop localized haziness. The haze could not be corrected and the owner had the fender repainted.

[Spidey]

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so would UQD be a no no because of its hydrophobic properties, or is it breathable?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

UQD doesn't leave much behind that will stick around for any length of time so it should be OK. But it's best to play it safe so we'd recommend sticking with either regular QD or even Final Inspection.

[Spidey]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

UQD doesn't leave much behind that will stick around for any length of time so it should be OK. But it's best to play it safe so we'd recommend sticking with either regular QD or even Final Inspection.

too late. lol. it was a question i asked in hopes of that reply

also, would it make any difference in curing time with the new water based paints compared to the previous solvent based and even older lacquer paints? I know everyone here says to play it safe and wait anywhere from 30-90 days, but has there been any tests done lately with the new paints today in regards to curing times

[Michael Stoops]

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When dealing with aftermarket body shop paints the final curing is essentially just via an outgassing process. Whether that happens any faster with one type of paint versus another is probably splitting hairs. We know of some body shops who say it's OK to wax after just 30 days. Whether that's down to a recommendation from their paint supplier because of the nature of the specific paint, or if it's their direct experience with the paints they use, or just plain misinformation (hey, it happens) is up for debate.

The general rule of thumb for aftermarket paint still stands - let it outgas for 60 to 90 days before sealing it. If you paint the car then park it out in the Phoenix sun in August, it will obviously cure much faster than if you paint it in North Dakota in January and then park it outside in a shady area.

[Spidey]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

When dealing with aftermarket body shop paints the final curing is essentially just via an outgassing process. Whether that happens any faster with one type of paint versus another is probably splitting hairs. We know of some body shops who say it's OK to wax after just 30 days. Whether that's down to a recommendation from their paint supplier because of the nature of the specific paint, or if it's their direct experience with the paints they use, or just plain misinformation (hey, it happens) is up for debate.

The general rule of thumb for aftermarket paint still stands - let it outgas for 60 to 90 days before sealing it. If you paint the car then park it out in the Phoenix sun in August, it will obviously cure much faster than if you paint it in North Dakota in January and then park it outside in a shady area.

I have read on a number of posts on different detailing forums that using a synthetic sealer is a nono, but some actually recommend and say a pure carnauba is fine.. any thoughts on that mike?

[Michael Stoops]

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It's probably still best to avoid anything that will seal the paint, and that includes carnauba wax. Sure, carnauba won't last as long as a sealant and may be able to "breathe" more, but since almost all carnauba waxes also contain some sort of polymer or other ingredients, we'd still stay clear of them on a fresh respray.

Better safe than sorry.

[Spidey]

Re: is Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 good for bird droppings & tree sap? than

It's probably still best to avoid anything that will seal the paint, and that includes carnauba wax. Sure, carnauba won't last as long as a sealant and may be able to "breathe" more, but since almost all carnauba waxes also contain some sort of polymer or other ingredients, we'd still stay clear of them on a fresh respray.

Better safe than sorry.

very true.. thanks mike