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    Which QD Before Waxing?

    Hi guys, I'm just after a quick bit of advice.

    I'm going to wax my car with M21 this weekend. I washed it and applied LT about 10 days ago and it has sat in the garage ever since. It now has a very, very light coat of dust on it, which I want to remove before I start waxing.

    My question is, which QD do you think would be better to remove the dust with - UQD, LT or Quik Detailer? Is one of these more compatible with M21 allowing it to bond better and thus last longer?

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts...
    Originally posted by Blueline
    I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.
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    Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

    I'd say some UQD would be fine. All 3 should work fine if it's just dust.

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    • #3
      Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

      Thanks matt.

      I know all three would be fine, I'm just asking which one (if any) would be better for the M21 to bond to?
      Originally posted by Blueline
      I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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      • #4
        Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

        Don't waste the more expensive UQD since you're going to be applying an LSP over it anyway. I believe M21 would bond equally well to either Last Touch or QD, so take your pick. I often use LT after my polishing step if the car has to sit for a while before I can apply an LSP.
        Last edited by gjohn28; Nov 9, 2010, 05:56 PM. Reason: clarification
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        • #5
          Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

          Cool, thanks for that. Good point about UQD being more expensive.

          Does anyone else have any thoughts/experiences with applying wax over LT?
          Originally posted by Blueline
          I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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          • #6
            Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

            I would go with the LT. Just from my point of view.
            quality creates its own demand

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            • #7
              Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

              I really don't think there would be much of a difference but I would go with LT.
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              • #8
                Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                I would actually re-wash the vehicle, if it's not too much hassle.
                I know it's been seating in the garage but after 10 days you may have some little dust bonded harder to the surface so you needed to apply more pressure to it to achieve full removal with quick detailer.
                At this stage, when you apply LSP, you don't want any even tiny swirls nor scratches. Your goal is to bring full potential of your sealant/ wax.
                Just my thought.

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                • #9
                  Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                  Thanks for all your feedback guys.

                  I don't really want to wash it again and it honestly doesn't need it after sitting in the garage without being driven.

                  It seems like the durability of the wax is not really affected by which QD I use, so I will stick with LT.

                  Thanks again
                  Originally posted by Blueline
                  I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
                    Thanks for all your feedback guys.

                    I don't really want to wash it again and it honestly doesn't need it after sitting in the garage without being driven.

                    It seems like the durability of the wax is not really affected by which QD I use, so I will stick with LT.

                    Thanks again
                    Good choice! LT has the highest lubricity level out of all of Meguiar's quick detailers so it would definitely be your best bet for 10 days of dust.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                      I don't really want to wash it again and it honestly doesn't need it after sitting in the garage without being driven.
                      What's the big deal about washing it again?

                      If the vehicle has dust on it, I wouldn't be applying a sealant until it has been washed and IPA'd. I don't care what QD it is, there will always be a risk of marring.

                      Wash, IPA and then seal.

                      Actually you might want to add an additional step of using Chemical Guys Ez-Creme after the IPA, before sealing. Got that tip from Detailed Image. Their pro tips are certainly worth reading, especially the ones from Todd.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                        Originally posted by gmck View Post
                        What's the big deal about washing it again?

                        If the vehicle has dust on it, I wouldn't be applying a sealant until it has been washed and IPA'd. I don't care what QD it is, there will always be a risk of marring.

                        Wash, IPA and then seal.

                        Actually you might want to add an additional step of using Chemical Guys Ez-Creme after the IPA, before sealing. Got that tip from Detailed Image. Their pro tips are certainly worth reading, especially the ones from Todd.

                        That's what I was suggesting as well for maximum wax bonding.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                          If it's just light dust fallout while sitting in the garage (ie, it was never driven following that full wash 10 days ago) then a quick wipe down with regular Quik Detailer should be all that's needed. Pay a bit closer attention around panel seams and edges and you'll be fine.

                          All Meguiar's products are cross compatible so nothing should compromise the bonding of M21. Still, if you're going to use M21 immediately following a wipe down then there's nothing to gain by using anything fancier than QD to remove that very light dust.
                          Michael Stoops
                          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                            Thanks for the reply Mike.

                            No, the vehicle has not been driven and has sat in the garage since it was last washed/QD'd. It is only very light dust we're talking about here, so I think a wash is unnecessary and time consuming.

                            Originally posted by gmck View Post
                            I don't care what QD it is, there will always be a risk of marring.
                            Then again, there is also a risk of marring by washing. I've successfully QD'd the car many times without marring, so I'm confident I can do the same again.

                            Originally posted by gmck View Post
                            Actually you might want to add an additional step of using Chemical Guys Ez-Creme after the IPA, before sealing.
                            I'm not familiar with that stuff - what's it supposed to do? Is it to help the wax bond better?
                            Originally posted by Blueline
                            I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Which QD Before Waxing?

                              Then again, there is also a risk of marring by washing.
                              True if you are careless, but I would think even more risk QDing dust. Are you sure it is dust and not pollen. Down here we have pollen everywhere. There is no way I'm using QD on pollen.


                              I'm not familiar with that stuff - what's it supposed to do? Is it to help the wax bond better?
                              I wasn't either, but when those guys give advice I tend to listen. Have you read their articles?

                              According to Todd it is used to prepare the surface (bonding) for the sealant, but it also has the nice effect on making the surface incredibly slick and glossy. It also claims to be a glaze, but the vehicles I used it on didn't need a glaze, so that was just a side effect that obviously does no harm. Use a blue or red pad and it just about disappears into the paint after a couple of passes with hardly anything left to wipe off.

                              Also available locally at a very reasonable price.

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