swirls in new black single stage

[68 l79]

Hello,
New here and have a question. Just had my truck painted with single stage urethane black. Painter wet sanded and buffed with wool pad and 3m med cut compound followed that with a black foam pad and 3m polishing compound. I've got swirl marks galore. Washed the truck with dawn twice and started over with a blue pad and 3m fine cut compound and marks are still there. I've been told i could hand glaze and get rid of most of them for a couple of washes then they will be back. I would like to get rid of them as much as possible permanantly. Would like advice on how to go about this with meguiar products.
Thanks in advance
Dave

[Murr1525]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

Any chance of pics to see how bad?

[Chris Thompson]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

Well consider that black paint is going to be very soft. Some paints, you have to buff like crazy to get anything to come out. On others, they are so soft, staring at them too hard will put swirls into it.
With it being single stage, it should be much easier to correct than BC/CC (meaning that you do not need as harsh of compounds).
What I would do is start with something light like swirlX. Work it in by hand with a foam pad or with a dual action polisher with a polish (or even finishing) pad. If the swirlx just is not taking it out, my next preference would be 205 but that is not always available at a store. If that is the case, move up to Ultimate Compound.
While UC should remove any of those defects, it may leave some hazing. That can be removed by a pass with swirlx.
To top it all off, I would glaze it. Single stage paints do not have near the protection that clear coat paints have and are much more susceptible to drying out. I would go ahead and glaze it and throw on a couple of coats of wax to finish it.

[BillyJack]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

I've used a number of products as a followup to rotary compounds on single-stage paints. M02, M03, M09 and M80. For Black paint, my first choice would probably be M80, due to the higher content of polishing oils.
Bill

[68 l79]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

Any chance of pics to see how bad?

I'm pretty bad with a computer and i doubt if my camera(cheap) could capture the swirls. I would say they are moderate.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

For ss paint. You can't go wrong with the 80/83 combo.

[Orca]

Re: swirls in new black single stage

I think in your case, since the guy at the bodyshop has sanded, compounded and polished ... you should start again there. You mention 3M Extra Fine Compound (yellow top, right?) ... pop some of that on a yellow pad (not blue ... assuming we're talking 3M waffle pads here, otherise a "polishing" pad) and that will remove the swirl marks. I like to spread over the area about 18" square on a low speed and then get up to about 1800 RPM and with the waffle pad just compressed enough without pushing down move about 1cm a second for one pass, drop the speed to 1500 RPM and then move about 1-2" per second for 2-4 passes, depending, finally, down to 1200 for 2-4 and then down to the lowest speed for at least 2 passes.

That should sort it.

Resprayed black ... lovely! Grab some #205 or #80 and pop a little onto that blue pad (or a "finishing" pad) and run it over and over and over at a low speed, burnishing in a really fine finish. The joy of #205 is you can run it for as long as you like, but also with #80, the abrasives break down quickly enough and then you're left with a really nice oily polish to play with for as long as you like.

Have fun ...