Clay Barring Question

[Murr1525]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Well, #205 is milder, #9 is milder.

It can also be a situation where something like ColorX or another cleaner/wax can be used, esp if just removing products adds swirls.

[l SIC l]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Thanks for the response Murr. Do you have a recommendation for a product which would be useful in the case SwirlX starts to haze? I'm sure the new 'Ultimate Polish' will be very helpful in this case once it's released, but in the meantime I may need a back-up

[Murr1525]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Something strong like UC or #105 may cause some hazing on some paints, and that is where you would follow up with SwirlX/#205 if needed.

Doesnt always happen, but can.

And then in much rarer cases, even SwirlX could leave hazing, and you would need to look at something milder to follow that up.

[l SIC l]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Noob here again

I've been watching a few D/A polishing videos and in a few of them mention that after applying a polish, slight hazing may occur and these are removed with a 'final polish'.

My question is: is a 'final polish' step waxing? Or is there another polish that has to be used first. Also, what would the initial polish (before the final polish) be? Are they, for example; colorX, swirlX, UC and scratchX.

I am probably trying to look too deep into this, that's why I'm getting confused with these different terms that I probably already know. It would be nice to have it confirmed though heh

[Murr1525]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Yeah, dont use your good MF's there... cheaper MF's, decent terry cloths.

[l SIC l]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Cheers Stamford

Does anyone have any methods of how to clean 'door jams' and greasy areas like those? I always seem to get a microfiber towel greased-up when I get to drying inside the door jams, rear trunk sills, etc.

[stamford]

Re: Clay Barring Question

I just keep coming up with questions! After using say either 'SwirlX' or 'Ultimate Compound', what would be the next step? i.e. do I go straight to waxing or do I implement a polish?

I'm asking this because I can't seem to find an application polish from Meguiar's website, it seems like the order would go: 1) Clay bar application 2) SwirlX or Ultimate Compound 3)....... and then 4) Tech Wax 2.0. Should I use the 'Deep Crystal Polish' before I wax the car (or another type of Meguiar's polish I am unaware of), or will this be an unnecessary application?

...I feel as if all the ideals I have gone by over the past few years with these Meguiar's products are being re-taught to me in a more effective manner then I have previously been doing :p

I would suggest 1)Wash 2) Clay 3) SwirlX 4)Wax. I Do not think that UC is necessary as it is quite strong and should be used for major defects only. Also, polishing for me doesn't seem to be a necessary procedure. SwirlX does the job. Tech wax 2.0 is an excellent choice.However, also try M26.You will not be disappointed

[mattya802]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Nice collection you got going there!

[l SIC l]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Cheers for the help again guys

I bought these products a couple of days ago (I have more back in New Zealand, but this is just a 'top-up' because they are half the price as back there!):

[yalerd]

Re: Clay Barring Question

This single thread will answer lots of your questions
Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle - Updated!

[Murr1525]

Re: Clay Barring Question

If you needed UC everytime, something would be wrong of course...

May prefer to buy SwirlX first, see if it does what you need, then move on if needed.

[k3ith]

Re: Clay Barring Question

I always follow UC with a polish before wax. UC is strong enough to even create some haze while cleaning. Swirlx is actually a good choice as it clears up UC and adds some polishing oils. I think you'll find them a good combination, not just an either/or.

[l SIC l]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Thanks a lot guys, I am 'very' particular though so I will definitely look into a polish such as the 'Deep Crystal Polish' to maintain these oils you speak of . I will also be buying a dual orbital buffer in about a month so will again look into those other polishes closer to the time.

[Murr1525]

Re: Clay Barring Question

Yeah, dont get lost between different companies terminology... we try to stick with Meguiars terms here of course.

1. Wash - remove big dirt
2. Clay - remove bonded on dirt
3. Clean - remove dirt from pores, remove swirls, etc with proper products.
4. Polish - add polishing oils to the paint
5. Wax - protect the paint, seal in polishing oils.

SwirlX has polishing oils in it, UC is more of a cleaner only. But using UC and going straight to wax is ok to do, not like missing some oils one time will hurt.

And the waxes often have some oils in as well.

If you wanted a proper polishing step (oils only), you would be looking at DC Polish or #7 Show Car Glaze.

[wifpd4]

Re: Clay Barring Question

EDIT: I have just realized that 'Ultimate Compound' is a polish (face palm), but is it sufficient enough to be the primary polish before waxing? i.e. is there a brighter option (as you wouldn't expect a cutting compound to also be the best polish available).

As Murr indicated in a previous post, Ultimate Compound is more accurately considered a cleaner.

UC is used most often for cleaning and defect correction.

Polishing is an optional step that would, if performed, follow cleaning and precede waxing.

There are several polishes in the Meguiar's product lines of consumer, professional and detailer.