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    Something wrong with the car or wax?

    I was washing/waxing a 1996 White grand-am today. The wash went just fine. The waxing part stumped me alittle bit. When I was waxing the car I used GC with a CLEAN foam applicator from Meguiars. When I applied the wax it went on weird. It literally looked the the car soaked up the wax like a dry sponge in water. Mind you the car was in shade while I was doing this. And when I went to go wipe it off with a CLEAN plush MF towel (it didnt even haze after letting it sit 20 mins constantly checking on it) it pulled nothing up. I took a Halogen lamp to it and it was literally blurry/hazzy. This car did receive a re-spray about 3 years ago. The owner never wash's his car (he lets the rain do it) let alone wax it. Next I tried applying Meguiar's Endurance Tire Gel... and the tires literally soaked the stuff up with in minutes of application. Does anyone know what could possibly be the problem with either my products or his car?


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    Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

    Did you bother to clay the car?
    Did you apply a pure polish?

    use these steps:
    wash again and dry
    clay (do the plastic bag thing to see if your car needs to be clayed, regardless, if your applying wax always clay the vehicle first)
    use a paint cleaner (make sure you shake the bottle well before and while applying it, this goes for any liquid your applying to the vehicle whether its polish, wax, swirlX, etc.)
    Pure polish
    wax/seal
    maintain (either with UQW or UQD)

    As for Endurance, let it sit for 20 minutes and apply another coat.

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    • #3
      Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

      Since the customer does not wash the car. I think that claying was definitely needed. Also more time probably could have been spent on cleaning the tires. They probably still would of soak in the endurance, but not as bad.
      quality creates its own demand

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      • #4
        Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

        Originally posted by J. A. Michaels View Post
        Since the customer does not wash the car. I think that claying was definitely needed. Also more time probably could have been spent on cleaning the tires. They probably still would of soak in the endurance, but not as bad.
        I brushed the $h1t out of those tires while cleaning them. And I didnt clay the car because the customer didnt want to pay for the claying process. But I will mention it to him tomorrow when I go to polish his exhaust pipes.

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        • #5
          Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

          You mentioned it was a respray. Is it a single stage job? Also, considering it is a white car, depending on how thick/thin you apply the wax, it can look like there is nothing there.
          I am going to agree with the other guys here. Claying is a big deal here. If he says he does not want to pay for it, he does not understand the importance of that step. Wax is made to adhere to paint, not above surface contaminants. Without claying, the wax will not be near as effective.
          As far as the tires go, I see the same thing. I may be wrong here but I think depending on whether it is water/petroleum based will decide how quick it dries out.

          Feel free to correct me on this one guys.

          If you are looking for a tire gel that will not at all soak in, look up Brite-N-Rite. They are off of 17th and South Pine. They sell a blue tire shine (the liquid, not the gel) that will stay looking wet for days and will not turn brown.
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          • #6
            Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

            why don't you do a test spot? Clay a 3ft by 3ft area, wax it over again and see if you notice a difference. If there is a difference, tomorrow when you bring it back to the owner you'll be able to explain the advantage of claying before waxing.

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            • #7
              Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

              Originally posted by angeloaa View Post
              why don't you do a test spot? Clay a 3ft by 3ft area, wax it over again and see if you notice a difference. If there is a difference, tomorrow when you bring it back to the owner you'll be able to explain the advantage of claying before waxing.
              X2
              I'd pick a single panel, such as the trunk lid. You don't want to take the car back with a 50/50 panel. He may consider it a forced up-sell and react negatively. Clay first, then maybe a polish if you're seeing some improvement, followed by the same wax. Let him see the benefit of a more thorough job.

              Bill

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              • #8
                Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

                Originally posted by Chris Thompson View Post
                You mentioned it was a respray. Is it a single stage job? Also, considering it is a white car, depending on how thick/thin you apply the wax, it can look like there is nothing there.
                I am going to agree with the other guys here. Claying is a big deal here. If he says he does not want to pay for it, he does not understand the importance of that step. Wax is made to adhere to paint, not above surface contaminants. Without claying, the wax will not be near as effective.
                As far as the tires go, I see the same thing. I may be wrong here but I think depending on whether it is water/petroleum based will decide how quick it dries out.

                Feel free to correct me on this one guys.

                If you are looking for a tire gel that will not at all soak in, look up Brite-N-Rite. They are off of 17th and South Pine. They sell a blue tire shine (the liquid, not the gel) that will stay looking wet for days and will not turn brown.
                Thanks for the info Chris your starting to be a really great help! But the thing with the tire shine. It works like its supposed to on all the other tires from other cars. Only on this one has it did this. Do you think its because it has slight dry rot on the tires?

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                • #9
                  Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

                  Originally posted by BillyJack View Post
                  X2
                  I'd pick a single panel, such as the trunk lid. You don't want to take the car back with a 50/50 panel. He may consider it a forced up-sell and react negatively. Clay first, then maybe a polish if you're seeing some improvement, followed by the same wax. Let him see the benefit of a more thorough job.

                  Bill
                  It wasnt a full detail of the car (i refuse to do a full detail on the car due to him stating the paint is getting thin on the roof) so I didnt keep it over night. I did the wash/wax/tire dress/vac in about 2 hours. I will be however doing a test panel like you and others have stated with claying then applying wax. Thanks for all the replies guys it helps a lot.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

                    Another possibility to consider: do a test spot with ColorX. ColorX should clear up the haziness and prepare the surface for the Gold Class. Claying, of course, is probably necessary, as already mentioned; but it may not be sufficient to properly prepare the paint on this particular car. Anyway, no harm in trying the ColorX.
                    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                    --Al Kimel

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                    • #11
                      Re: Something wrong with the car or wax?

                      Originally posted by Alizxa
                      I have a 2004 GMC Canyon. This morning I noticed that the right signal was blinking faster than usual. Could their be something wrong with it? If so, what could it be and what would I need to do to fix it?
                      If it's the front blinker blinking faster than the rear... the rear may be about to go out. If the rear blinker is blinking faster than the front than the front may be about to go out. But since this does not pertain to this post nor this forum than it should not be posted about Mechanical questions about chevy/gmc/caddilac/pontiac/hummer/saab should be posted on LS1tech.com

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