Ok so im at 18yrs old and own a 2003 Black Ford Explorer. Ive always kept the thing mint and wax it usually twice a week, and only use meguiars products. So at school today some punk managed to get a ton of clear coat scratches in my driver door. So I thought I would be able to wetsand it. So i washed the area and 1500 Grit first. Sanded it, compunded, polished, and wax but was still able to see the sand marks, so I decided to redo it with 2000 grit, and now that I went through the whole process, it looks hazy and dull finish. Could it be the fact im doing it all by hand and dont have a wheel. Im dropping it off tommorow at an auto body shop. The guy I know says he will see what he can do with his wheel for me. Any ideas?
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It's tough to do by hand. We'll keep fingers crossed that your buddy can revive her. My bet is, probably so. Do you really wax it twice a week!!?
Welcome to MOL!John @ HillCityAutoDetail.com
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You guessed correct! It is nearly impossible to get sanding marks out without a buffer. Even with a buffer you need to know what you are doing. I would recommend that from now on, follow the golden rule : Least Aggressive Method First. I hope everything works out for you.ChrisThompsonsCustom@gmail.com
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Yuup almost twice a week, I like to switch up the products. NXT 2.0 or just regular Gold Class Carnauba. What do you mean by rotary work? Its really not that bad just minor dulling not noticeable from a distance. I just really hope he can get it all out, and make it shine nice. I usually always wax by hand with occasional polish applications in between. I am a perfectionist and obsessed with a clean car, so for me this is huge.
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Yuup almost twice a week, I like to switch up the products. NXT 2.0 or just regular Gold Class Carnauba. What do you mean by rotary work? Its really not that bad just minor dulling not noticeable from a distance. I just really hope he can get it all out, and make it shine nice. I usually always wax by hand with occasional polish applications in between. I am a perfectionist and obsessed with a clean car, so for me this is huge.
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Find someone who can buff it for you, definitly need a rotary. Check out the section here about picture from the classes that demostrate wetsanding. I think its the Advance section. VERY informative.
Also read this.
You notice even with the strongest product, on the strongest meterial and with even but firm pressure with plenty of passion. Your not going to get to the level of cut that a rotary does, but again be careful, you do not want to do further damage.
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Yes, just jumping into wet sanding is usually a recipe for disaster, or at least supreme frustration. It's just not as simple as grabbing some fine grit paper and going at it, either. There is a technique to the physical act of moving abrasive over the paint so as to prevent the incidence of tracers, finger marks and other issues that end up being very difficult to buff out even with the proper tools.
For a novice, wet sanding is not something to be entered into lightly and it looks like you've learned that lesson the hard way.
Out of curiosity, you mentioned having clear coat scratches. Can you define that a bit better for us and how/why this brought you to the conclusion that wet sanding was the only solution?Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.
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OK, so you did try some other processes before wetsanding.
As others have mentioned the obvious big issue here is that you don't have any good way to remove the sanding marks once you've put them in. Odds are that a good D/A buffer with the right pad and liquid probably would have gotten the scratches out easily - assuming, of course, that the scratches weren't so deep that you could feel them. But even a good D/A buffer can struggle to remove sanding marks, especially if the sanding isn't done quite right.
We'll be interested to see what your friend at the body shop can do to correct this for you. If your sanding technique was not truly horrid then he should be able to fix it for you pretty easily. From your description it doesn't sound like you did too bad a job sanding, you simply lacked the tools needed to remove the sanding marks. 2000 grit sounds like it's pretty fine, but now you know how tough that can actually be to remove!Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.
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