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    Question About Surbuf Pads

    Hey guys, how's it going.

    I just received my order, which was a set of 6.5 Surbuf Pads, and a 32oz of M105 because my 8oz bottle was running low after doing my truck. I really have heard good things about these pads, Im yet to use em and a couple of questions ran across me. The Fibers feel real soft, and for some reason seem to be falling off by rubbing your hand on the pad. How would u go by cleaning em without making it loose all its fibers? and do you prime it or just do and X and buff.



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  • #2
    Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

    On your initial use, some micro-fingers will shed, it's completely normal. After the first use, they shouldn't shed much at all. They have better cut than any foam pad on the market when used with a DA. It's always good to prime, but you can X and buff, too. Surbufs cut so well that you will have to follow with a finer pad and polish from the micro-marring left behind.

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    • #3
      Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

      Thats exactly why I got em, my W8006 pads with m105/m205 weren't getting the job done, so I'm turning to these bad boys. Oh okay, I didn't knew if I should go ahead and prime since the little instructions that came with it says they don't require much product as other pads.

      So soaking these into water with some spray n wash wont be harmed?

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      • #4
        Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

        Originally posted by David32 View Post
        Thats exactly why I got em, my W8006 pads with m105/m205 weren't getting the job done, so I'm turning to these bad boys. Oh okay, I didn't knew if I should go ahead and prime since the little instructions that came with it says they don't require much product as other pads.

        So soaking these into water with some spray n wash wont be harmed?
        Big difference in cut between a W8006 and surbuf. You NEED to keep these pads clean while your polishing, though. If not, they'll cake up with polish and lose cut. A pad conditioning brush makes these pads very easy to "clean on the fly". However, don't use too little product. X and buff should be fine.

        As far as soaking, do you mean cleaning them after you're done polishing?

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        • #5
          Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

          Here's some helpful information on using the Surbuf pads as well. Since gmblack3a (search for his write-ups, Bryan's work is definitely Top Notch) has been using these on the DA (for quite some time), he hasn't really touched his rotaries.

          http://truthindetailing.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=1694&highlight=surbuf

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          • #6
            Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

            Originally posted by imacarnut View Post
            Here's some helpful information on using the Surbuf pads as well. Since gmblack3a (search for his write-ups, Bryan's work is definitely Top Notch) has been using these on the DA (for quite some time), he hasn't really touched his rotaries.

            http://truthindetailing.com/Forum/sh...ghlight=surbuf
            Good information, but to the OP, this isn't the only way to use Surbuf pads. FYI, this method is effective, but gets messy.

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            • #7
              Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

              Originally posted by HPaddict View Post
              Good information, but to the OP, this isn't the only way to use Surbuf pads. FYI, this method is effective, but gets messy.
              Just like anything else, one needs to try it out for themselves and see what works best for them. The link I posted is just one example and idea..

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              • #8
                Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

                Omg I knew the joy wasn't gonna last. Let me tell you guys, these Surbuf pads make wonders happen. But of course only after passing it with a W8006 pad with m105, I couldn't be any happier. But guess what happen, today as I was doing my mother's Mercury Villager.. I was almost to the end of finishing up the right side of the vehicle, so I can go ahead and lay down the NXT 2.0 and let it sit for a while. As I was working the m105 with a polishing pad, the pad came off alone with the backing plate.. I was totally shocked because I didn't knew what cause it to happen. The backing plate broke for no reason, I've never gone past speed 5.. I was, and still am mad and pi**ed off about it, because I've only had this for 3 months and only done 2 vehicles prior to this, and then this happens. To top that off, the tip of the backing plate scratch the car and its very noticeable and their in there really deep. Now this is just gonna be sitting there for a while, I just don't have money to buy a backing plate for it after wasting so much on everything else. Just real disappointed.. = (







                scratches actually look worst in person.. the flash makes em look thinner.

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                • #9
                  Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

                  I forgot to mention that is the backing plate that comes with the G100v2 and the only one I had.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

                    Not sure of the process you used, but I am guessing that you used light pressure to maximize pad rotation?

                    Sorry to see this happen- I've used a lot of the W68Da backing plates with nary a failure. I hope you can fix the pigtail markings in the paint.

                    No load on the plate, plus the weight of the pad, plus high machine speed puts a real strain on the composite material.

                    The Surbuf's are very capable, but the caveat has always been that they are a bit tricky to use, and can be quirky to boot.

                    If you are planning on doing a lot of polishing using a Surbuf, you'd be wise to purchase a heavier/heavier-duty backing plate, one with more "meat". The W68DA is a fine backing plate, but it is purposely made lightweight, made to fit the Meguiar's 2.0 buffing pads, and were intended to be used with standard applied pressures. MORE or LESS pressure can have an effect of all things mechanical.

                    In addition, until you get a bulletproof process down, work on some test panels, a formica countertop... whatever. The Surbuf pads were originally designed to apply stains to wood, and then were marketed as a finishing or waxing pad. They were NEVER touted by Surbuf as a defect removal pad.

                    I personally touted them as such, but essentially warned that they were not a "slam dunk", and would take some practice. Originally posted the info on autopia, but since they are having all sorts of security issues, don't go there until the coast is clear. It was also posted later here: http://truthindetailing.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=294
                    Kevin Brown
                    NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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                    • #11
                      Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

                      Glad to see Mr. Brown posting here again...been a while since i've seen your very informative posts!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Question About Surbuf Pads

                        Originally posted by CHzo6 View Post
                        Glad to see Mr. Brown posting here again...been a while since i've seen your very informative posts!
                        Thanks!

                        Been avoiding posting most of the year because I can't seem to generalize very well, and I love to post.
                        Consequently, I end up using my computer "work time" to "post"... and nothing gets done on my site.

                        Things are almost done, so I can allow myself to post a bit again.
                        Kevin Brown
                        NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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