wax question

[Executionerhk]

I just got my DA, so I am planning to buy NXT 2.0 liquid wax.

is it a good idea to use NXT 2.0 to seal the paint.
and then apply gold class by hand as 2nd coat of wax?

I still have half can of gold class left and i don't have sealant.

is it ok to mix this two product?

or should i do gold class by hand then DA NXT 2.0?

thanks,
Steve

[yalerd]

Re: wax question

You'll be fine.
That's a very nice combination, NXT 2.0 topped with Gold Class

Remember to apply NXT2.0 on speed 3 and with a finishing pad

[fordf150]

Re: wax question

I think you'll find the consensus here in that a sealant such as NXT should be applied first to cleaned paint, followed up with your favorite wax or another coat of sealant after 12 hours of cure time.

[Executionerhk]

Re: wax question

well i think i am going to get a bottle of NXT 2.0...
use finishing pad. apply, then remove.
wait 12+ hour and then clean with qick Detailer to remove dust.
then repeat with NXT 2.0 with the same process.
then gold class and it should shine like a champ.

[Executionerhk]

Re: wax question

my wife thinks that i am wasting money buying so much product...
but i have UC and swirlX, i am not going to buy M105 and M205...
but NXT 2.0 is more like sealant... i really want it...
how can i explain to her and make her understand?

[BillyJack]

Re: wax question

IMHO a sealant and wax product have slightly opposite priorities. While both wax and sealant products in the Meguiar's lines do a good job at both gloss and durability, sealant is slightly biased toward durability first, with gloss considerations second. Waxes have gloss as first priority, finish preservation second. Layering wax over sealant gives you the best of both worlds, both durability and superb gloss.
Bill

[Executionerhk]

Re: wax question

so sealant is a wax(protection) as well, just design to protect more than shine,
and wax(protection) as well, just design to shine more than protect?

[fzr confused]

Re: wax question

A wax is normally a wetter look while a sealant is normally more mirror like. At least that's the difference normally with NXT vs GC. Both will protect the paint for a decent amount of time and look great. A lot of people can not even tell the difference between the two, I know I can though lol.

[fordf150]

Re: wax question

IMHO a sealant and wax product have slightly opposite priorities. While both wax and sealant products in the Meguiar's lines do a good job at both gloss and durability, sealant is slightly biased toward durability first, with gloss considerations second. Waxes have gloss as first priority, finish preservation second. Layering wax over sealant gives you the best of both worlds, both durability and superb gloss.
Bill

Not sure I agree about sealant leaning predominantly towards the durability side. Yes it has much more durability than waxes, but Megs sealants NXT and #21, both give a very high gloss result. Most will agree that a good nuba wax gives a different look. Some will say it adds depth ,everyone sees it different I guess. But I don't think it is necessarily glossier. As with any wax or sealant much will depend on how the paint is prepped beforehand. IMO Megs sealants will deepen and or darken certain colors as well, particularly reds.

Here is a detail on my truck with 2 thin coats of #21 sealant which is similar to NXT. Not sure you can get much glossier than that.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35423

[JoeDirt]

Re: wax question

my wife thinks that i am wasting money buying so much product...
but i have UC and swirlX, i am not going to buy M105 and M205...
but NXT 2.0 is more like sealant... i really want it...
how can i explain to her and make her understand?

If you need a point of reference, we can send pictures of our garages and our Meg's product shelves. She'll stop asking questions when she sees how much product you could have...

[BillyJack]

Re: wax question

If you need a point of reference, we can send pictures of our garages and our Meg's product shelves. She'll stop asking questions when she sees how much product you could have...

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Bill

[Michael Stoops]

Re: wax question

is it a good idea to use NXT 2.0 to seal the paint.
and then apply gold class by hand as 2nd coat of wax?

I still have half can of gold class left and i don't have sealant.

is it ok to mix this two product?

Don't overthink these two types of products, Steve, as they basically do the same thing - protect the paint. That is what they are designed to do. Debates can rage all day long over which looks better, a wax or a sealant, but at the end of the day you only really need one or the other.

It is true, however, that as a group synthetic sealants will last longer (and generally protect a bit better) than carnauba products. The two can also look a little different from one another (or a lot different, depending on which two you're comparing). That's the part that comes down to personal choice. What looks good to you may not look as good to someone else. You're both right, you just have different tastes.

IMHO a sealant and wax product have slightly opposite priorities. While both wax and sealant products in the Meguiar's lines do a good job at both gloss and durability, sealant is slightly biased toward durability first, with gloss considerations second. Waxes have gloss as first priority, finish preservation second. Layering wax over sealant gives you the best of both worlds, both durability and superb gloss.
Bill

We strive for obtaining max gloss with NXT Gen Tech Wax 2.0 (which is technically a synthetic sealant) so we'll debate some of the above. However, as stated above, if your eyes prefer the look of a carnauba over a synthetic then so be it. There is no way we can tell someone that their subjective evaluation is wrong. Hey, you like what you like! It is very true, though, that NXT is our best protecting and longest lasting wax/sealant/paint protectant.

[Executionerhk]

Re: wax question

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Bill

Women, are always the winner...
we need to get .... somehow... from them LOL

she is complaining that i buy way too much and never use them...
because i was buying stuff for perfect finish.
which at till yesterday, i finally get my grid guards and DA...

now it is time to work!!


and i will get more pad down the roll with foam gun and M105 and M205...
they are too expensive in Europe, i cannot get pass i can get UQW, UQD 7,99 at walmart...

[Executionerhk]

Re: wax question

Don't overthink these two types of products, Steve, as they basically do the same thing - protect the paint. That is what they are designed to do. Debates can rage all day long over which looks better, a wax or a sealant, but at the end of the day you only really need one or the other.

It is true, however, that as a group synthetic sealants will last longer (and generally protect a bit better) than carnauba products. The two can also look a little different from one another (or a lot different, depending on which two you're comparing). That's the part that comes down to personal choice. What looks good to you may not look as good to someone else. You're both right, you just have different tastes.


We strive for obtaining max gloss with NXT Gen Tech Wax 2.0 (which is technically a synthetic sealant) so we'll debate some of the above. However, as stated above, if your eyes prefer the look of a carnauba over a synthetic then so be it. There is no way we can tell someone that their subjective evaluation is wrong. Hey, you like what you like! It is very true, though, that NXT is our best protecting and longest lasting wax/sealant/paint protectant.

Thanks Mr Stoops, you have yet safed another day!!

but now safe my life...
ask Meguiar's to do their own products...
i really don't want to pay $70 for a smooth surface detailing clay.
as i can get it $15 at walmart before...

do something about it please!!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: wax question

Where are you paying $70 for the Smooth Surface Clay Kit????