i bought some items but confused:( please help

[djdigy]

Hi i just bought
Meguiars M95KIT Speed Cut Compound Kit (contains 32 oz Speed-Cut Compound and 16 oz Bottle of Final Inspection) and Meguiars NXT GENERATION TECH WAX 2.0 PASTE & NXT SPRAY

What is the order to use them? which by hand and which by machine?

[Matt Majeika]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

Hi i just bought
Meguiars M95KIT Speed Cut Compound Kit (contains 32 oz Speed-Cut Compound and 16 oz Bottle of Final Inspection) and Meguiars NXT GENERATION TECH WAX 2.0 PASTE & NXT SPRAY

What is the order to use them? which by hand and which by machine?

With the items listed, you'd use the Speed-Cut Compound first, applied by machine. Work one section at a time and remove the product after each section is done. Do you have any machine experience?

Then you can apply a coat of NXT Wax to the entire car by hand or machine (I prefer by hand) and let dry. Once dry, you can remove the residue and go over the car with Final Inspection - spraying and removing from one panel at a time.

The NXT Spray you mentioned - is that the NXT Generation Spray Wax or the NXT Speed Detailer?

What kind of car are you wokring on / what are you trying to accomplish here?

Please take a look at the 5-Step Paint Care thread.

Matt

[Michael Stoops]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

M95 Speed Cut Compound is a rotary only product and is not recommended for use by hand or D/A buffer. It is a very aggressive compound, roughly equivalent to M105, designed to remove sanding marks with a wool pad on a rotary.

As Matt has already asked, what are you working on and what are you trying to accomplish?

[djdigy]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

Hi thank you for the replies

My car is a Grey Hyundai Tiburon and there are some swirls and rough feeling on the paint. I want to remove these swirls and this feeling, give it a good looking apperance.

Matt you said: 'With the items listed, you'd use the Speed-Cut Compound first, applied by machine. Work one section at a time and remove the product after each section is done. Do you have any machine experience?'

how can i remove the product? and All of the job will be done by a professional. But Here in Turkey Meguiars is not used too much so i want to be sure about how to use them and tell to the guy who will apply them.

Here are what i have except m95 kit:

[Matt Majeika]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

I'm a little bit confused. Did you buy the M95 to fix the problem on your car? Or was that the product that caused the problem... And the 'professional' that's going to be using the product - is this someone helping you fix the problem, or someone that caused the problem to begin with... Sounds like you might be safer buying a Dual Action Polisher and some less aggressive products (M105/M205). The rotary is tough to get right.

Thanks for the clarification on the NXT. I'd use the past wax as your 'wax / protect' step and then use the spray wax as a maintenance step. Wax the car (with the paste), and then next time you wash your car, you can use the spray wax to maintain the gloss and portection.

[djdigy]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

i bought m95 kit to fix regular fine swirls and gritty parts on the paint that happen in natural way,We've never used the product yet. But to be sure i just wanted to ask you in which order we should use them . The professional has a rotary.

in conclusion in which order i should use Speed-Cut Compound , Final Inspection, Techwax and ,Techwax Spray?

Final inspection should be applied right after the speed-cut compound? then the Techwax and finaly Techwax Spray is this right? Which by rotary and which by hand?and Are these the products right for me to use? Thank you very much for your help i know there are too much questions ( but i don't want to mess everything.

[Matt Majeika]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

i bought m95 kit to fix regular fine swirls and gritty parts on the paint that happen in natural way,We've never used the product yet. But to be sure i just wanted to ask you in which order we should use them . The professional has a rotary.

in conclusion in which order i should use Speed-Cut Compound , Final Inspection, Techwax and ,Techwax Spray?

Final inspection should be applied right after the speed-cut compound? then the Techwax and finaly Techwax Spray is this right? Which by rotary and which by hand?and Are these the products right for me to use? Thank you very much for your help i know there are too much questions ( but i don't want to mess everything.

To directly answer your question, here is the order in which the products should be applies (given the information you have provided):
1. Speed-Cut Compound
2. Techwax
3. Final Inspection

Next time you was your car:
4. Techwax spray

Hope that helps...

[Michael Stoops]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

We have some serious doubts about going straight to wax from M95 via rotary. Rotary application of M95 is a very aggressive process and will likely leave the paint looking less than perfect and quite possibly with some holograms. Generally this would be followed by a less aggressive step to remove the marks left by the M95 and aggressive pad - normally something like M82 or M205 with a finishing pad. The Final Inspection is just a mist & wipe product to help you safely remove any light dusting that might occur from the use of M95.

You mention that a pro will doing the work for you. Have you spoken with this person about his normal processes and products? Has he even evaluated your car to determine if it even needs something as aggressive as M95 on a rotary?

[djdigy]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

We have some serious doubts about going straight to wax from M95 via rotary. Rotary application of M95 is a very aggressive process and will likely leave the paint looking less than perfect and quite possibly with some holograms. Generally this would be followed by a less aggressive step to remove the marks left by the M95 and aggressive pad - normally something like M82 or M205 with a finishing pad. The Final Inspection is just a mist & wipe product to help you safely remove any light dusting that might occur from the use of M95.

You mention that a pro will doing the work for you. Have you spoken with this person about his normal processes and products? Has he even evaluated your car to determine if it even needs something as aggressive as M95 on a rotary?

The pro knows anything about meguiars prodducts thats why i'm trying to learn everything. My car doesn't have sanding marks but swirls if you look under the light. m95 can damage the paint i think? You have something else to suggest me to use?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

Well, M95 won't actually damage the paint, but from the sounds of it this is just a much more aggressive product than what you really need for the light defects in your paint.

When you correct defects in paint you are actually using an abrasive material suspended in a liquid and rubbing it against the paint to smooth it out and remove the defects. In a way it is sort of like sanding a piece of wood, but with a liquid abrasive instead of a paper coated in abrasive. It's also a lot less aggressive than sand paper, so please don't misunderstand the analogy - but the concept is the same. And just as a coarse sand paper will remove a lot of material quickly but not leave a perfectly flat finish, so potentially does M95 (or any other aggressive compound) when used on paint. Again, the effect is not as dramatic, but the finish is not quite what we consider "defect free" or "ready for wax". It requires a follow up step to further refine the finish. Put another way, when you have sanding marks or other severe defects you would use something like M95 to aggressively remove them, and replace them with a much finer and less severe (and very uniform) defect that is then easily removed with a finer abrasive.

But in a case like yours where you just have very mild defects to begin with (the swirl marks) then you don't need a very aggressive abrasive to remove them. In fact, the same product that should remove any marks left behind by M95 may be sufficient to remove the swirls themselves.

Make sense?

[djdigy]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

definitely make sense. Very good explanation. So you suggest me to use M82 or M205 which one? thank you for your support

[Matt Majeika]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

Great answer, Mike!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: i bought some items but confused please help

definitely make sense. Very good explanation. So you suggest me to use M82 or M205 which one? thank you for your support

This is where things can get a little tricky - M205 may or may not be aggressive enough to correct all the defects. Without seeing the defects and knowing just how hard the paint might be (although we suspect a Hyundai Tiburon to be pretty workable) it's difficult to say exactly what products to use. M205 is an excellent product though.

You list your location as "Usak" - that's in Turkey, correct? Do you have Ultimate Compound available there?

Also, do you know for certain that the detailer is going to use a rotary buffer and not a D/A? Any idea what other products he might have available to him, or are you supposed to supply product for this project?