U.C. making swirls worse?

[paul.segovich]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

Oh, drat.
Figures that I'd speak up and try and help someone instead of just lurking, and I'd post false information.
Sorry about that.

[Mudwalker]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

Got it.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

We've seen this happen before when dealing with very soft paint. In that case, UC may be too aggressive of a product, and using a lot of pressure even by hand can yield less than optimum results. In the overall scheme of things this is pretty rare, but from your experience, Mudwalker, it's always happening. We certainly understand your frustration because of this. The problem with trying to spell this out on a bottle, however, is that you generally don't have any way of knowing if your paint is delicate and soft or if it's very hard until you start working on it.

Terry cloth is going to be a poor choice in applicator on this paint, regardless of the product chosen and how aggressively you do or don't apply it. We would recommend going with the SwirlX and easing up on the pressure. As you guessed, you don't want to work it until it's a dry powder, but SwirlX should let you work for quite a while before that happens.

So give this a shot:
Concentrate on just a small area that you've already worked on and have experienced this increased marring. Limit this area to no more than about 18" x 18" and work the product methodically through that area. Look at the image below for an idea of size of work area and application pattern of the product:



Don't skimp on the SwirlX here; use a dollop of product about 1.5" or so in diameter, maybe even a bit more. Use only light to moderate pressure but continue working the product until it becomes just a thin, translucent film on the surface. Now wipe off the excess with a clean microfiber towel.

You may need a couple of applications like this to remove the defects, but if you take your time you should be able to remove them.

[Shack]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

So give this a shot:
Concentrate on just a small area that you've already worked on and have experienced this increased marring. Limit this area to more larger than about 18" x 18"...

Mr. Stoops I believe made a typo. He meant to say "Limit this area to NO more larger than about 18" x 18"". Sorry Mike - just didn't want you to be misunderstood.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

Mr. Stoops I believe made a typo. He meant to say "Limit this area to NO more larger than about 18" x 18"". Sorry Mike - just didn't want you to be misunderstood.

Thanks for catching that Shack! You're spot on, and I corrected it in my original post.

[Mudwalker]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

This is what I've been doing, but I'll keep trying.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

This is what I've been doing, but I'll keep trying.

From the sounds of it, you're trying to get more aggressive to correct the problem:

I'm still seeing alot of swirls. I'll try going over it again with more pressure, but I think this is going to be a job for a DA.

We're suggesting you use less pressure, not more. And with the less aggressive product the two you have on hand.

[Mudwalker]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

Not at all. Yesterday I went over a section with only little pressure three times. It didn't work too well.

[Shawn T.]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

You aer facing the typical issues when learning how to hand correct paint. It could take up to 5 applications before the area is of the quality you want. Remember, in order to remove scratches, you have to remove microscopic amounts of paint. Doing this by hand is very time consuming.

Be sure you are not using your fingertips and are using the length of your fingers. In all honesty, I would simply invest in a DA. ADS has one of the best deals I have seen yet for the G110V2: http://www.autodetailingsolutions.ne...-pack-kit.html. Pick up any other products you might need there also. It seems pricey, but remember that most places sell the G110V2 for about $160 (at least what I have seen) and sell a 6-pack of Meguiars Soft Buff 2.0 pads for $60 or more.

[Mudwalker]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

I'm going to keep trying by hand this time, but I will get a DA in the future.

[Garage Troll]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

Mudwalker, don't give up. Just remember that this is all fixable, it just may take some time and effort. Next time try using the least agressive method first and work your way up from there. It's all a learning experience and it only gets better. Also, I'm not trying to insinuate that you are rushing but remember to take your time. My car is in very good condition and it took me over 25 hours to correct and protect the paint alone. Some products to try on your car first next time would be SwirlX or considering how delicate your paint seems to be even Cleaner Wax or ColorX may be perfectly suitable. As far as Meguiar's products go I can assure you that they all work!

[Mudwalker]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

You're right. I think I was expecting results too quickly.

[Shack]

Re: U.C. making swirls worse?

You are welcome Mr. Stoops. I just wanted to make sure the "new" guy didn't misunderstand. We're all learning... always.