M105 and M205 necessary?

[Shawn T.]

I am looking to start a small detailing business this summer and was wondering if M105 and M205 were necessary. Mind you, I have access to UC, Swirlx, M09, M01 and M07 locally. I have not seen a car that UC could not bring back so I was wondering if M105 and M205 were really necessary for this small business. Thanks guys!

[Ryan_Bihun89]

Re: M105 and M205 necessary?

I am looking to start a small detailing business this summer and was wondering if M105 and M205 were necessary. Mind you, I have access to UC, Swirlx, M09, M01 and M07 locally. I have not seen a car that UC could not bring back so I was wondering if M105 and M205 were really necessary for this small business. Thanks guys!

Remember UC is almost alike the 105, but 105 has the power of removing sanding grit marks. So... there you go..

[Desmo888]

Re: M105 and M205 necessary?

If I were to open a small detail business, I would stock M105 & M205 in my arsenal of compounds and polishes. I would also have M21 and M26 on hand.

Just my two cents.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M105 and M205 necessary?

It sounds like you've answered your own question!

M105 is probably a good thing to have on hand, but since you're having such great experiences with UC we wouldn't want you to start relying on M105 for every detail. As you probably suspect, M105 is most likely more aggressive than most people really need, but so many have come to rely on it because of how quickly it cuts and how nice a finish it leaves at the same time. But the same can be said of UC, plus it's more forgiving when used on a D/A - not to mention less expensive and easier to source.

Still, there may come a time when UC isn't quite enough for a given situation - will you be wet sanding severe defects at all, will you ever deal with extremely hard paint that is horribly marred? These are cases where M105 can be a lifesaver.

As for M205, while it can do wonders for adding clarity to a finish and really making paint "pop", that process on its own adds time to a detail. How much time are you willing to put into each customer's car and what does each customer expect out of the job? If you aren't charging for a real show car shine but rather just a high quality defect correction, then do you want to spend the time to do this extra step? We are not suggesting you cut corners when detailing for money, just that you be aware of your costs and time. If you've developed the skills needed to get the most out of any product at your disposal there's no need to do extra steps if you don't have to. Again, M205 definitely has its place (it also happens to be one of my favorite products, by the way) but you probably won't need to use it all the time.

[Shawn T.]

Re: M105 and M205 necessary?

Thanks Mike. That clears things up. I don't think I will need M105 because I will not be charging near enough for the customer to expect perfect, show car quality paint (and they will be aware of that). However the defects will be adequately removed with my new G110V2! No, I will not be wetsanding any paint as I have gone this far into paint correction yet. I plan on going around the car with the customer showing them what can and what can not be removed. I did this with my first customer and they greatly appreciated the explanations.

Would M09 also leave a high gloss finish if Swirlx is not doing it for some reason? It says that it will on the back of the M01 bottle (Yes, I finally read the bottle!!!!!).

Once again, thanks for all the explaining, it is extremely appreciated!