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    M205 A Few Hazy Spots

    I just recieved my G110 v2 this week and put it to use on my Black 2008 Acura TSX. This was my first experience with a dual action polisher so my form might not be the best. I started with M205 on a W8207 pad and had great luck removing the swirl marks. I then put a light coat of Nxt2 wax on and pulled the car out of the garage and into the sun. I noticed a few hazy spots in the paint. These spots are not very noticable unless the sun is just right. I can try and post a few pics if the sun hits these spots just right.

    I dont think my wax was completely dry when I removed it.... Could this be the problem ?

    Anybody have any experience with this paint on a 2008 Black Acura ?

    Thanks I have learned alot here.
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    Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

    I know exactly what you're talking about. Look anything like this?





    My car is a 2008 Accord, Royal Blue Pearl. The paint on your Acura, Nighthawk Black Pearl, is a notoriously soft paint. I just went through the same thing using the same combo you did (G110v2, polishing pad, M205), but got some really great advice from Mike Stoops that worked really well for me.

    "Use M205 on a finishing pad, speed 3 or 4, and work it for a good long time with light to moderate pressure. Work it until it's almost gone, then wipe off. You can even work an area a bit larger than normal - I've done half a hood at a time with it, just going over it again and again in sort of a long, lazy buff. The paint ends up looking crystal clear when done."

    Hope it helps!

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    • #3
      Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

      Thanks for the response ClearlyCoated.....Im looking forward to this weekend when I can fire up the buffer again and try out the finishing pad on a slower speed.

      Did you work the product down completely ?

      How many section passes .....approx ?

      Thanks

      That Royal Blue is a great color.

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      • #4
        Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

        How many passes is not something accurate. It really depends on the speed/pressure/environment temp/humidity and so on. Some cases a product will dry up very quickly and in other occasions it won't.

        My suggestion is pay close attention to the product when working it and don't let it dry. When you see it's about to dry then just stop using the DA and wipe off.

        M205 has a very nice work cycle. Compared to other products you have more of a play time but it will be hard to determine exactly the time or passes it requires

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        • #5
          Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

          I took care of my doors this past week. However, I noticed the same hazy holograms on my hood last Thursday. So today (Saturday) I set out to correct the paint on the hood. Initially, I was a little frustrated that the method that worked so well on my doors didn't have the same effect on my hood. I polished the hood lwith cross hatched passes, kept the speed at 3.5 on the speed dial, and used M205 on a finishing pad.

          Holograms formed across the width of my hood. I repeated the process with M80 on a finishing pad. But my efforts were in vain. The holograms remained.

          I decided to go back to M205, but I decided to switch up my pass pattern. Rather than use crosshatch passes, I kept the passes long and lengthwise to the hood, counter to the direction of the holograms.

          If you look closely at the picture below, you can see the holograms running across the hood on the passenger side between the yellow arrows. The driver's side was buffed with M205 on a 9207 pad at a speed of 3000 OPM. The yellow arrows lengthwise to the hood merely mark the line of separation between the corrected driver's side and the hologrammed passenger side




          Both sides of the hood fully corrected




          Following application of NXT 2.0




          Crystal clear, just as Milke Stoops predicted




          Quality products produce quality results

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          • #6
            Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

            One more thing to add about the above process. I didn't put any pressure on the DA, I just guided the G110 and let the machine use it's own weight. For soft paints, this might be the best approach.

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            • #7
              Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

              That hood looks great......Im looking forward to breaking out the G110 again.....Thanks for the tips....

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              • #8
                Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

                The hood looks very good. Follow the above advice.
                quality creates its own demand

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                • #9
                  Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

                  Glad to see it worked out so well for you, John!!

                  Very soft paint can be a real challenge and sometimes you have to adjust your technique in ways that don't always seem to make sense at first. We've seen soft paint that loved M205 on a finishing pad via rotary, but only at fairly high speeds as lower speeds still marred the surface. Go figure.

                  We've seen a couple of Honda Fits where the paint was so darn soft that we could easily correct all defects with M66 or D151 on a D/A, but only with a finishing pad and only as medium speed and very light pressure. Anything else marred the surface pretty badly.

                  We're always asked why we make so many different products, and situations like this help to answer that question!
                  Michael Stoops
                  Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                  Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  • #10
                    Re: M205 A Few Hazy Spots

                    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                    Glad to see it worked out so well for you, John!!

                    Very soft paint can be a real challenge and sometimes you have to adjust your technique in ways that don't always seem to make sense at first. We've seen soft paint that loved M205 on a finishing pad via rotary, but only at fairly high speeds as lower speeds still marred the surface. Go figure.

                    We've seen a couple of Honda Fits where the paint was so darn soft that we could easily correct all defects with M66 or D151 on a D/A, but only with a finishing pad and only as medium speed and very light pressure. Anything else marred the surface pretty badly.

                    We're always asked why we make so many different products, and situations like this help to answer that question!
                    Thanks Mike. Your advice was spot-on, as always! Little details like using a slower speed, softer pads, milder cleaning polishes, and less pressure is almost counter-intuitive for new detailers who would automatically go to more aggressive methods to get rid of soft paint defects. It's good to have the voice of experience in this forum from you, Mike Pennington, the mods, and the many other helpful pros in the MOL community who do this for a living.

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