ONR question.

[1970judge]

Ok this may have been discussed, but I couldn't find it in a search.

HOW does ONR actually work? I am on the brink of getting a whole companies employees cars, and am looking heavily into ONR. But how does it work and not drag dirt across the paint, cars are dirty around here!

Any insight into this ONR method is appreciated!

[xantonin]

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My method is to add half an oz to a 32 oz spray bottle (I'll admit I might add an ounce, I'm somewhat lazy on measuring I probably add too much)

I spray the whole panel, then wash over it with the mit, and do a normal wash process panel by panel drying as I go.

[TOGWT]

Re: ONR question.

How does ONR work?

[The polymers in No Rinse have reactive groups that bond and trap dirt particles making the dirt particles virtually non-abrasive. They also bond to oily particles and emulsify them into water. The latter is equivalent to the cleaning action from soaps which also work by emulsifying oil particles into water. However, with soap there is no interaction with dirt. This is why adding No Rinse to a regular wash also helps protect the paint from dirt particles.

The No Rinse polymers also bond to all automotive surfaces and create a slick surface and act as a barrier to protect paint from marring. That is something that soap will not provide since surfactants in soaps have no affinity for painted or other automotive surfaces.

When you use 1 oz. of No Rinse in 1 or 2 gallons of water for your wash at the molecular level this provides hundreds of billions of polymer molecules to do what was said above. Additional product will not be necessary except if you are using tap water that contains high levels of minerals such as calcium hydroxide or silicates. In these cases some of the polymers will bond to these minerals and take them out of solution therefore more product might be necessary to compensate for this effect. This is another reason why adding No Rinse to regular car wash soap improves the results when using tap water. ] - David Ghodoussi

[noobhax0r]

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ONR is really an excellent product. I've used it several times alone as a wash and combined into a NXT wash solution. I noticed that it does indeed work as advertised. Also, most of the dirt and heavier particles will actually be at the bottom of the wash solution (1 bucket method). So it almost acts as its own wash solution + a built in grit guard; the solution remains relatively clear blue and not turn cloudy black dirty.

[1970judge]

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Well with that said, I suppose I am going to give this a go. I will use it first on my BLACK car to see how I like it before I use it on customer's cars. Two questions:

1) How does this work in direct sunlight? I won't have the benefit of shade at this facility.

2) method? See below;

2 bucket wash

1. 5 gallon bucket with all water/grit guard
1a. 5 gallon bucket with water/grit guard with how much ONR?
2. Wash one panel at a time completely and dry immediately.

Repeat....

Sound effective?

[William_F]

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In direct sun with warm/hot body panels it still works but you have to wash much smaller sections at a time. In cooler weather, I can get buy with wetting down and wiping the entire roof then drying. When it's warmer I have to break that down into smaller sections because the wash solution tends to evaporate before I dry if I don't. Should that happen, you just have to rewash that area to clean it up.

As for 2 bucket method, IMO it's not needed with ONR. The dirt is encapsulated by the polymers in the solution and they are slick. After your first wash, you'll see what I mean. When you dump out your wash water, feel the little bit of crud that's left in the bucket. It will feel different from the usual grit you'd find using traditional wash methods.

[noobhax0r]

Re: ONR question.

Yep, since this product was designed for use without rinsing, and areas with water restrictions, 2 bucket method is not really necessary with ONR. However there is the occasional dirt particle that gets trapped in the wash media. However I would suggest folding up your wash media (if its a mf towel or similar) and using each fold for each pass.

[ajb39oh]

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ONR is one of the neates products I've used in a while. I've washed cars all winter with it in my garage. My wife, who's environmentally friendly, calls it "Eco Wash". She even thinks it's neat stuff.

[xantonin]

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If you're like me and you bought two buckets and two grit guards, you can still make use of the grit guards.

Stack both of them in 1 bucket. It will provide an extra layer to trap dirt, if you're only going to use 1 bucket. Makes it easier to reach in and scrub your mit on it too.

Also make sure to wipe out your buckets after using ONR. I find that the dirt "sticks" to the bottom when I dump it out but it wipes out easily.

[William_F]

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I find that the dirt "sticks" to the bottom when I dump it out but it wipes out easily.

Same here.

[xantonin]

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Yeah, I just wanted to warn people. I let my sister borrow my wash buckets and she didn't wipe them out, and the buckets had the dirt dried to the bottom.

But even then it washes out easily.