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  • M80 + Wool Pad ?

    Hi everyone,

    Have any of you ever used M80 with a wool pad?

    I find that sometimes I need to correct paint where M80 and a polishing pad are not aggressive enough and I am wondering if using M80 and stepping up to a wool pad would be a good alternative?

    Thanks!
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    Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

    I have never but you can always try. I would be careful you might put in more scratches then you have now.
    Good luck Jim

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    • #3
      Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

      Wouldnt want a wool pad at all with a DA, if that is what you are using. Would be better with something like #105.

      Working by rotary would give a bigger variety of options.
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      • #4
        Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

        Originally posted by Murr1525 View Post
        Wouldnt want a wool pad at all with a DA, if that is what you are using. Would be better with something like #105.

        Working by rotary would give a bigger variety of options.
        Sorry I should have mentioned I am working with a rotary.
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        • #5
          Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

          Originally posted by 96Lude View Post
          Sorry I should have mentioned I am working with a rotary.
          Have you tried the cutting pad?
          ''USE THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE PRODUCT TO GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT''
          You Don't Know What You Can Do Until You Try '' TECHNIQUE IS EVERYTHING''
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          • #6
            Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

            I am not a rotary person, but I think I'd probably still try something like #105, cutting pad, etc before jumping all the way to wool.
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            • #7
              Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

              M83, D151, M84, M85, M95 all have less cut that M105 and can be used with a foam pad on the rotary. What happened to the "least aggressive method" on MOL? Don't get me wrong, M105 is GREAT, but also very strong. If you are doing details to remove light swirls, you are going overboard. It would be like washing your dishes with a pressure washer.
              NOTE: Post count does not reflect actual detailing knowledge.

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              • #8
                Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                Originally posted by 96Lude View Post
                Hi everyone,

                Have any of you ever used M80 with a wool pad?

                I find that sometimes I need to correct paint where M80 and a polishing pad are not aggressive enough and I am wondering if using M80 and stepping up to a wool pad would be a good alternative?

                Thanks!
                I have used M80 with a variety of wool pads, from lighter cut polishing wool's all the way up to a 4ply twisted wool pad. You will see an increase in cutting power as well as a decrease in finishing ability as you move of the wool aggressiveness chart.

                Generally speaking it is best to match the product with the pad, so that you get the most efficient use of each. Example- M105 on a wool pad for maximum cutting, M83 on a polishing pad for swirl removal, m82/m205 on a finishing pad for maximum refinement.

                This doesn't mean you cannot use a finishing polish such as M80 with an aggressive pad, it doesn't even mean you shouldn't do it, it just means that it might not be the most efficient method.


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                • #9
                  Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                  Why would you go so aggresive, whats wrong with taking the next logical following step .
                  Get some M83 on a polishingpad, if that does not give you the result you're after step up to M84 & a cuttingpad.

                  After that you can refine with M80 & a polishingpad .

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                  • #10
                    Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                    Originally posted by geert dr View Post
                    Why would you go so aggresive, whats wrong with taking the next logical following step .
                    Get some M83 on a polishingpad, if that does not give you the result you're after step up to M84 & a cuttingpad.

                    After that you can refine with M80 & a polishingpad .
                    M80 on a softer polishing wool such as a Lake Country Purple Foamed Wool isn't going to much more aggressive then M83 and a polishing pad. While I agree that it might be the absolute best choice to increase the aggressiveness of polish in this case first, it is not always a viable option.

                    If all you have is M80 and don't want to buy another polish, what is wrong with trying it on a more aggressive pad?
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                    • #11
                      Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                      Originally posted by TH0001 View Post
                      M80 on a softer polishing wool such as a Lake Country Purple Foamed Wool isn't going to much more aggressive then M83 and a polishing pad. While I agree that it might be the absolute best choice to increase the aggressiveness of polish in this case first, it is not always a viable option.

                      If all you have is M80 and don't want to buy another polish, what is wrong with trying it on a more aggressive pad?
                      I would be very carefull with a combination like that, i would rather buy a more aggresive polish instead of a cuttingpad.
                      Maybe its worth a try , i am gonna test it on a old bodypanel and post the results !

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                      • #12
                        Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                        Originally posted by TH0001 View Post

                        If all you have is M80 and don't want to buy another polish, what is wrong with trying it on a more aggressive pad?
                        I agree, I've removed some pretty mild swirls and scratches with just using #80 and a foam cutting pad then steped down to a polishing pad still using #80 While switching between my G100 and Makita.

                        To me this is the 4 things in my aresonal that I start with first, they teamed together and the right technique and form can do some pretty amazing things! If it don't work after 2 or 3 passes I can always go up to something like UC and grab a polishing pad to try it first before grabbing a cutting pad.

                        Not trying to start anything just telling how I like to use a product to it's full potential! Now I can also understand that if you really don't have time to test and do 2,3 or 4 applications where one might jump up to a more aggressive product (I've done this plenty) but a wool pad can be pretty aggressive and in the long run often times creates more work on yourself removing holograms and such. so trying like others have said #83 or maybe UC using the polishing pad or cutting pad with the rotary should be enough.

                        Like colonelcash stated "using the least aggressive first"
                        ''USE THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE PRODUCT TO GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT''
                        You Don't Know What You Can Do Until You Try '' TECHNIQUE IS EVERYTHING''
                        Test Hoods Are Cheap And Most Of The Time Free

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                        • #13
                          Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                          Wow, so many responses. I appreciate all the feedback.

                          To be honest, I love working with the foam polishing pads, however I find the foam cutting pads are way too stiff and the last time I used one, it was grabbing the paint way too much, it didn't glide smoothly.

                          So do you think a better option would be to try let's say a polishing pad with M95 or M105?

                          I just want to avoid the foam cutting pads and we must keep in mind that a wool pad remains cooler from what I have seen and a foam cutting pad will generate more heat, which is not a good thing.
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                          • #14
                            Re: M80 + Wool Pad ?

                            Originally posted by geert dr View Post
                            I would be very carefull with a combination like that, i would rather buy a more aggresive polish instead of a cuttingpad.
                            Maybe its worth a try , i am gonna test it on a old bodypanel and post the results !

                            I'm not so sure I would be doubting Todd. You obviously have no idea the talent and knowledge this guy possesses. When Todd speaks, everyone should listen. Trust me on this one.


                            Colin
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