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  • How long do these sealants generally last...

    I'm looking into #20, #21, and Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0.

    If not the WG sealant, anyone know how long #20 and #21 generally last? I know there are varying factors, but was just looking for a ballpark time frame. WG claims to last 6 months -- more or less depending on environment, of course.

    Thanks.
    2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
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    Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

    Hey clutch

    I don't know anything about the wolfgang products but I'm sure their pretty good.

    I have been using meguiars for about 10 years now and have not been let down by any of their products and have used #21 for quite some time and I'd say it will last as long or longer then any other products out their.

    But like you know weather-humidity-your environment- and how well you prep your paints surface and apllying your wax/sealant has a big impact on the lasting effect of the sealant.

    In short you can't go wrong with either product they are both great and #20 has been around for 20 years or so, and that in it self says alot about it!

    Hope I've helped
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    • #3
      Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

      Well let's say everything is done by the book -- perfect paint prep followed by #20 or #21. Since you've used this product, how long has #21 lasted for you?

      Just looking for some reviews by those who have actually used it.
      2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
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      • #4
        Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

        Well, since #21 is pretty much the Mirror Glaze version of NXT 2.0...and i used NXT 2.0 last August, and now its January, so thats about 6 months and i still have relentess water beading and full signs of wax protection
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        • #5
          Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

          Originally posted by Clutch34 View Post
          I'm looking into #20, #21, and Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0.

          If not the WG sealant, anyone know how long #20 and #21 generally last? I know there are varying factors, but was just looking for a ballpark time frame. WG claims to last 6 months -- more or less depending on environment, of course.
          I have not tried WDGPS, but I have read a LOT of forums. WDGPS receives great reviews for its looks, but it is often criticized for not being as durable as some other synthetic sealants out there (think Zaino or Klasse). My guess (and it's a guess based on no comparative experience whatsoever) is that M21 and Wolfgang are probably in the same ballpark in terms of durability. You'll probably get 2-4 months out of them, depending on conditions.
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          • #6
            Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

            Originally posted by speed3blackmica View Post
            Well, since #21 is pretty much the Mirror Glaze version of NXT 2.0...and i used NXT 2.0 last August, and now its January, so thats about 6 months and i still have relentess water beading and full signs of wax protection
            I had read up on NXT 2.0 and there were some complaints that it didn't last very long. But I guess that could be why #21 is "pretty much" like NXT 2.0 -- do the same thing, just a little more durable..?
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              Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

              really ? NXT 2.0 has been nothing but the most durable wax i have ever used
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              • #8
                Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                Originally posted by speed3blackmica View Post
                really ? NXT 2.0 has been nothing but the most durable wax i have ever used
                hmm...that's interesting..

                Not sayin that you're wrong or anything, just a little different then what I've been reading up. I'm glad it's working so well for you though! I actually have some NXT 2.0 right now that I won at Nick's get together here in Dallas when Mike Phillips came down. Just waiting to get over with my DAT so I can try it out. Hopefully it works just as well for me as it does for you!
                2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
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                • #9
                  Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                  it should...i've never read any bad reviews on NXT 2.0 except for the streaking problem some people say it has, but its usually because they are either not waiting long enough for it to dry or waiting TOO long.
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                  • #10
                    Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                    Well All I can say is that I used to be a weekend/mobile detailer and had great results and call backs for most of my clients when I used either one of these products on their vehicles.

                    As for my own personal vehicles, mustang was garaged kept for a long time and mainly just did a weekly wash with a quik detail and usally about every couple months give or take a week or so I would apply some cleaner/wax.Without getting to specifically about 3 times a year I would clay then apply #80 and either #26 and #21 over that or #16 over #26 or #21 over #16 just kept things interesting and loved to experiment with different combo's.

                    And another thing I liked about #21 was that when I got in a hurry and didn't tape off or ran out off tape you could get away without having streaks on your rubber/trim surfaces when #21 got on them.

                    And talk about a gloss and the richness of color in a paint even when the customer just wanted a fast wash and wax!

                    All in all I will say that the sealant will last about 3 to 4 months if applied with 2 thin coats, and on a daily driver that gets washed maybe onced a week and parked under shade.

                    Thats just my opinion maybe others will chim in with something different or their experience but our weather has been pretty crazy the last couple 3 or 4 years best I can remember.

                    Hope that helped.
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                      Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                      Cool, exactly what I wanted to know, thanks stang_krazy!
                      2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
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                      • #12
                        Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                        Originally posted by speed3blackmica View Post
                        Well, since #21 is pretty much the Mirror Glaze version of NXT 2.0...and i used NXT 2.0 last August, and now its January, so thats about 6 months and i still have relentess water beading and full signs of wax protection
                        Nxt2.0 has never lasted more than 2-3 months for me. Do you use UQD or UQW? If so I think this is what you are still seeing beading wise. When you use topper products like these you never know when your true base LSP is still there or not and its the topper product that is actually beading and not the original LSP.

                        Of all the sealants in my arsenal FK 1000P is my favorite for looks, durability and slickness.
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                        • #13
                          Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                          What's the process for adding another coat of wax and/or sealant a few months after the first application? Just wash the car and apply the new wax or wash, clay, wax or something different..?
                          2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
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                          • #14
                            Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                            I'm a big fan of Collinite products. I know it wasn't on your original list, but I can get 5 months out of an application of 476s on a steady basis. Would last longer with better surface prep I'm sure. Also, M16 is another long lasting LSP. Neither will darken your paint like M26, but will provide gloss and great protection.
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                            • #15
                              Re: How long do these sealants generally last...

                              Thanks for the input ColonelCash. I do intend on topping the sealant with a wax, most likely M26. Don't have any yet, but I will soon enough!
                              2011 Infiniti G37S 6MT
                              Black Obsidian

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