Product confusion

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So many products.
Does it cause problems if you use a Tech wax 2.0 over or under a Carnauba Wax? Just wondering if I use a redish colored bottle or spray with another product in a black bottle or spray gonna cause problems. Ron

[RGP]

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Carnauba over NXT2.0 is an awesome combination. I'm totally clueless about the second part...

[Murr1525]

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Does it cause problems if you use a Tech wax 2.0 over or under a Carnauba Wax?

No, though covering up Nxt 2.0 seems like a bit of a waste.

Just wondering if I use a redish colored bottle or spray with another product in a black bottle or spray gonna cause problems.

I believe he is refering to the QD/Spray Wax products, as compared to the UQD/UQW products.

And no, you can use any of the products you like together.

However, some do have certain jobs. Perhaps you could share what you are working on, trying to do, and we can give you the specific products to start off with.

[DARTICUS]

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No, though covering up Nxt 2.0 seems like a bit of a waste.



I believe he is refering to the QD/Spray Wax products, as compared to the UQD/UQW products.

And no, you can use any of the products you like together.

However, some do have certain jobs. Perhaps you could share what you are working on, trying to do, and we can give you the specific products to start off with.

I bought a bunch of MEGUIAR'S products today to use but after reading about them some seem almost the same. Quik Wax uses Carnauba and Uquik detailer doesn't use carnauba but from what you said it sounds like you can use any product without harming the paint. Just trying to get the best finish shine on my 2008 Crossfire.
I guess starting off with Gold Class Wash followed by Tech Wax 2.0 would be fine if there are no rough areas to use Clay on. If I find rough areas after washing I guess clay is needed than a wax and than U Quik Detailer.
My car is new 1 year old but garaged with 6000 miles on it so I don't think it will need compound or swirlX. Suggestions or advice please. Thanks Ron

[Murr1525]

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I bought a bunch of MEGUIAR'S products today to use but after reading about them some seem almost the same.

Yeah... it can happen. Maybe you have your receipt, and can trade some in if needed for glass, interior products, etc.

Quik Wax uses Carnauba and Uquik detailer doesn't use carnauba but from what you said it sounds like you can use any product without harming the paint.

Well... Lets look at it this way:
Quick Detailer - Lubricant/Mild cleaner for dust, bird droppings, and clay.
Quick Wax - Carnuba spray wax for use after future washes with some "real" wax still on the paint. For use on a clean surface.

Ultimate Quick Detailer - Mild cleaner for dust, bird droppings. Leaves a polymer coat behind to help with water run-off, etc. Not for claying.
Ultimate Quick Wax - Synthetic spray wax for use after future washes with some "real" wax still on the paint, but leaves more 'updated' protection behind. For use on a clean surface.

I guess starting off with Gold Class Wash followed by Tech Wax 2.0 would be fine if there are no rough areas to use Clay on. If I find rough areas after washing I guess clay is needed than a wax and than U Quik Detailer.
My car is new 1 year old but garaged with 6000 miles on it so I don't think it will need compound or SwirlX. Suggestions or advice please.

I have a feeling your other thread has some of these answers.. But at a minimum for the first detail, I would:

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. ColorX
4. Wax

Then future details, you may or may not need to clay, just depends on your environment.

[ClearlyCoated]

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If your car has never been clayed, then by all means do go ahead and clay it. Areas that you thought were smooth will pale by comparison to a clayed panel. It's really the type of thing you have to experience before you'll believe it, and after you experience it you'll will be a firm believer.

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If your car has never been clayed, then by all means do go ahead and clay it. Areas that you thought were smooth will pale by comparison to a clayed panel. It's really the type of thing you have to experience before you'll believe it, and after you experience it you'll will be a firm believer.

Is claying a long time consuming procedure? Does claying move along as quickly as waxing? Ron

[Murr1525]

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The car sounds to be in good shape, so it will go pretty fast.

I'd say on a car in good shape, it is along the lines of waxing. In bad shape, it could be hours....

As a side note, the kit comes with 2 bars. I would break the bars into 3 pieces each, and work over cardboard at first. You do not want to drop the clay on the driveway and reuse it on the paint. And so try not to waste the clay by dropping it and wasting the whole thing.

[Daniel Kinder]

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Is claying a long time consuming procedure? Does claying move along as quickly as waxing? Ron

Maybe this will help you understand and give you a better ideal and to do it right the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEfLGL59GI

[DARTICUS]

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Maybe this will help you understand and give you a better ideal and to do it right the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEfLGL59GI

That really shows it. Thanks for this very good. I guess after doing a small area you need the clay again and continue to clay it. Ron

[Tim Lingor]

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Maybe this will help you understand and give you a better ideal and to do it right the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEfLGL59GI

Hey Daniel,

It has been a while. Great to see you back on MOL!

Tim

[Daniel Kinder]

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Ya, and when the clay shows signs of contamination then you knead it into itself to expos a clean and fresh side and flaten back out and work on the next section. Spray the clay and the next section and start over again.The way I clay is by doing half the hood or what ever section I'm working on before wiping clean if you wait to long then the quik detail will dry and then you will need to rewash,and to me I don't want to have to rewash for a second time to take up more time. practice and time will have you claying like a pro.

Just remember to do your test spots also and when you get it down to where it looks good to your eyes and satisfied then proceed to your detail. spending more time on the cleaning steps, but start out with the least aggressive cleaner because that is where all your hard work will show up, when your done with your lsp (last step product - your waxes)all the shine-gloss-deepth and rich color will show!! LATER

[Daniel Kinder]

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Hey Daniel,

It has been a while. Great to see you back on MOL!

Tim

Ya good to be back!!!!!!!

Here to stay, ,sure have missed it, the detailing and all the good guys and gails on here. LATER

[Murr1525]

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I tend to think of it as rolling the piece of clay into a ball, and flattening it out. Then using one side till it is dirty or stretched out. Then fold the clean side around the dirty side, roll into a ball, and flatten again.

[searle]

Re: Product confusion

So many products.
Does it cause problems if you use a Tech wax 2.0 over or under a Carnauba Wax? Just wondering if I use a redish colored bottle or spray with another product in a black bottle or spray gonna cause problems. Ron

You actually asked 2 very different and unrelated questions.

1) The consumer products tend to be in black bottles (but not always), while the professional products tent to be in red bottles. They often contain very similar products (like consumer NXT2.0 is similar to professional #21) with the consumer ones slightly optimized for hand application while the professional ones are slightly optimized for machine application. Still, I chose to apply #26 glaze by hand rather than the consumer DeepCrystal-2 glaze, even though they are very similar.

2) Studies have shown you cannot really "layer" waxes, regardless of the many myths floating around the internet. You can apply a second coat which has the effect of ensuring you have not left any coverage holes, and maybe putting on very slightly more wax. If you do 10 more coats, each coat removes as much as it puts on, the end result is not thicker. However, since there is some adding/removing/blending of the waxes, many folks like to put on an initial NXT20 (or #21) polymer sealant for its durability, and then a second coat of DC3 (or #26) carnuba for its warm looking depth. You probably end up with slightly less of each (50-50?), but a combination of effect. That is similar to what Meguiars does for you in the new enhanced GoldClass Carnuba which also contains synthetic polymers. Note that this combination is almost always done as NXT2.0 first and 2nd coat of Carnuba.