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    M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

    I just finished polishing with SwirlX and the paint looks great.

    I've "waxed" with NXT 2.0 3 times (in the last 3 months) now and although it's pretty good, I'm not settled on it yet. It just doesn't have the slick waxed feeling to me and after a week or so the daily wipe down with UQD seems hard to apply.

    I bought some M26 "yellow wax" liquid today and I'm going to give it a try tomorrow.

    I've seen a lot of people apply the M26 over a coat of NXT 2.0 and I am wondering why that is preferable to just applying the M26 after the polish?

    Althought the NXT goes on easy, I don't need to throw in an extra step just to increase the work and cost of a wax job unless there's some returns.

    Has anyone done a side by side comparison on different panels of their cars? A month ago I did opposite fenders on our Ford Expedition, one with NXT 2.0 and the other with good old maroon bottle cleaner/wax. Honestly, the cleaner/wax felt slicker from the start and after 30 days the water beads the same on both.

    I'm gonna sleep on this before I wax tomorrow and would appreciate any comments.
    2010 Camaro SS RS (black), "OBSSEST"
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    Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

    when people put M26 on top of NXT it is for extra shine give it an even wetter look wether it does or not I use NXT 2.0 on all my cars and my hot rod and it beads like crazy. I dont know how long you let it dry for, but sometimes you need to let it sit for a while 1 hour or so to cure. I used the yellow high tech wax on my girlfriends dads 70something corvette and it made the paint look real deep and wet looking. color of the vette is a darker red. Hope this helps

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    • #3
      Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

      I personally think that it gives the car a deeper wetter look. I feel like NXT alone is somewhat shinier while topping it with M26 enhances the fleck/depth and makes it look like wet paint more so than reflective paint.

      The only way you'll be able to tell if you like it or not is if you try it out yourself! It can't hurt!

      I once put swirls in my paint just to see what it looked like.
      I don't always detail cars, but when I do, I prefer Meguiar's.
      Remove swirls my friends.

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      • #4
        Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

        Originally posted by Andrew C. View Post
        I personally think that it gives the car a deeper wetter look. I feel like NXT alone is somewhat shinier while topping it with M26 enhances the fleck/depth and makes it look like wet paint more so than reflective paint.

        The only way you'll be able to tell if you like it or not is if you try it out yourself! It can't hurt!

        i have to say this is pretty much on the money !! at least on my car it was....after applying NXT 2.0 on my Black Metalic, the finish had this extremely SHINYYYY look that was almost as if it was a mirror...the next day (gave nxt 12 hours curing time) i topped it with M26 and the look became deep and rich
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        • #5
          Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

          NXT-2.0 is a synthetic (polymer) sealant and hence gives finishes a glassy/reflective look, and lasts a little longer. #26 is a carnuba and gives a deeper wet-look, especially on red or dark paints. If you put either "on top" of the other, the various solvents and carriers in the last one will slightly loosen some of the first one and you end up with a mix that has some of the properties of both but less of either.

          Personally, during the spring, I do a full detail including M07 glaze and then NXT-2.0 sealant (left 12 hrs to cure) and then top with #26, and then continue with #26 during the summer. During the fall and winter I go back to NXT-2.0 (only) for winter durability.

          If I have lots of time on a nice warm summer weekend morning, I will do NXT(cure 1-2hrs) then #26 just because I enjoy the process, but if I have less time I tend to just do #26. Note I have a red car which (like black) loves that #26 wet-look, especially on top of glaze.

          On our white car, we only use NXT-2.0 since white does not really show a wet-look, but it gleams with the synthetic high-glass reflection.

          PS: Also, note that the test you did is not quite fair. cleaner/wax is just that, a CLEANER plus wax, while NXT is mostly wax sealant (extremely little cleaner). hence unsure if you used some king of cleaner to prepare before the NXT, but the initial preparation of any finish has a huge affect on the final finish.




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          • #6
            Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

            Personally, I think M26 looks great over NXT 2.0. I've used this combo on my car before with great results. Still got great beading as well.

            M26 over NXT 2.0


            Rain beading


            Shane
            1995 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera SL

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            • #7
              Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

              Well, I went with just the M26 alone this time. It looks great in my garage, and I can't really tell the difference in the appearance versus the NXT 2.0 I have been using. Hopefully the sun will be out tomorrow so I can see if there is an appearance difference in direct sunlight.

              The feel of the finish from the M26 is much silkier on my finger than that of the NXT 2.0. I'm not so hung up on my paint "feeling" nice but I'm anxious to see how daily UQD applications feel on the M26 versus the NXT 2.0.

              I think I'm still too much of a skeptic about the whole layering theory...ie 50 coats of Zaino. Humbug. I am thinking that a coat of M26 probably removes most if not all of a coat of NXT 2.0 but I know there are plenty that disagree.
              2010 Camaro SS RS (black), "OBSSEST"

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              • #8
                Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                You can wax forever, but if you want that smooth-as-glass wonderful feeling you must wash then claybar. It is a good idea to then use paint-cleaner (SwirlX) to totally optimize the surface preparation. Then, glaze and add wax of your choice.

                It is the cleaning preparation (the claybar) which is going to make the huge difference in the feel. Since feel is important to you, do this once and you will never hesitate again. NOTE: when claying, be sure to use LOTS of the supplied libricant (dont be stingy, the clay needs to "slip" over the surface and NOT stick or pull).
                2010 XRS

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                • #9
                  Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                  So what would be the difference between the M26 and the Gold Class Wax? They sound like they would be the same.
                  Sleepy

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                    Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                    #26 is from the professional line, and like most things there it is aimed at a specific job and is pure carnuba wax
                    - that does not mean 100% carnuba, since that would be so hard a hammer would not dent it. carnuba needs solvents/carriers to allow it to be applied.
                    - but there are no other types of waxes and no synthetic polymers

                    Gold Class contains significant carnuba, but it also contains some synthetic polymers. Also, I believe it contains some glaze.

                    ColorX goes even further, and is not only a wax plus glaze, it also has cleaner in it.

                    Since GC and ColorX are aimed at consumers, they are specifically optimized for hand application (although machine application can be used).

                    So, like all the Meguiars line, targetted for slightly different situations but all can be used anytime with good results. If you want something very specific, Meguiars likely has a product optimized for that (regardless of what it is).
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                    • #11
                      Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                      Originally posted by searle View Post
                      #26 is from the professional line, and like most things there it is aimed at a specific job and is pure carnuba wax
                      - that does not mean 100% carnuba, since that would be so hard a hammer would not dent it. carnuba needs solvents/carriers to allow it to be applied.
                      - but there are no other types of waxes and no synthetic polymers

                      Gold Class contains significant carnuba, but it also contains some synthetic polymers. Also, I believe it contains some glaze.

                      ColorX goes even further, and is not only a wax plus glaze, it also has cleaner in it.

                      Since GC and ColorX are aimed at consumers, they are specifically optimized for hand application (although machine application can be used).

                      So, like all the Meguiars line, targetted for slightly different situations but all can be used anytime with good results. If you want something very specific, Meguiars likely has a product optimized for that (regardless of what it is).

                      Thanks, I will be trying m26 on my darker cars. When ever it warms up again!
                      Sleepy

                      Love the Classics!

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                      • #12
                        Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                        Originally posted by sleepy View Post
                        Thanks, I will be trying m26 on my darker cars. When ever it warms up again!
                        When it does warm up (I live in Ontario Canada so get what you are saying), wait for a nice weekend morning and then spend a couple of hours doing a spring detailing: hand-wash, then claybar, then SwirlX cleaner, then DC2 or M07 glaze, then 2 coats #26 (or one NXT and top with #26). It will give a marvelous wet-look to your dark car and give you pleasure throughout the summer
                        - and will drive your neighbours crazy with envy.
                        2010 XRS

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                        • #13
                          Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                          Originally posted by sleepy View Post
                          So what would be the difference between the M26 and the Gold Class Wax? They sound like they would be the same.
                          Megs told me that Gold Class is classified technically as a slight cleaner wax.
                          "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research would it? (Albert Einstein 1879-1955)
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                          • #14
                            Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                            here is a good thread to help you understand what a few most used products are classified as...although its for speed settings for the g110, meguiars has classified each product for you

                            Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated! - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online
                            http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37547&highlight=product+pad+speed+settings
                            The list above is only a starting point. Ultimately which products you choose will be determined by your skill, the condition of the paint, how hard or "polishable" the paint is, and your personal preferences - especially with regard to your final wax selection. Some other things to keep in mind when working with the
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                            • #15
                              Re: M26 versus M26 on NXT2.0?

                              Originally posted by RGP View Post
                              Megs told me that Gold Class is classified technically as a slight cleaner wax.
                              Even NXT has some very slight cleaning ability, but I believe that for both GC and NXT that their cleaner is extremely mild and hence not enough to describe as being a "cleaner" type product. The consumer cleaner-wax has a stronger cleaner (hence the name), and ColorX has an even stronger cleaner (although still VERY mild compared to the products aimed at repairing paint problems).

                              It is no wonder that most end-consumers just grab a bottle of "WAX" and call it a day. They never know or care about the slight cleaners or glaze present, they just like the result and the simple usage. As long as it does not hurt the paint in any way, and significantly improves the resulting shine, they are delighted. GC and ColorX (and NXT sealant) are wonderful examples.
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