MO7 DA Process

[k3ith]

I am almost ready to move to the Pure Polish stage of my project. I plan to apply MO7 with a PC DA. It took me a bit to get the process down for using SwirlX with the DA (even after watching a video). So I figured I would just ask for technique up front for my remaining steps...

With SwirlX, I spread even with speed 3, worked in with speed 5, lightly skimmed with 3 again, and then removed.

I am guessing that I may need to just skip the "work in speed 5" step for applying M07 but I am not sure and would like to hear the process some of use to do it successfully.

Also, if you would be so kind as to be specific in your instruction it would really help me. I am kinda a literalist and gray area gives me fits

Thanks in advance.

keith

[Murr1525]

Re: MO7 DA Process

I have seen Mike Phillips recomend the polishing pad with it.

[k3ith]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Hey Murr. Sorry, I am not sure I have that. I was planning to use a black lake country?

[Murr1525]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Well, I guess use the one closest one, probably similar to what you applied the SwirlX with. Seemed better than a finishng pad he said.

[k3ith]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Thanks - I used a white with SwrilX and it does say on the package it is for cleaners and polishes with very light cutting. You have a recommendation on max DA speed?

[Murr1525]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Not really... Someone else will have to help there.

[jmakado]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Finishing pad speed 4. Three pea sized dots should do half a hood size area. Less works better than more when using #7 applied with a DA.

[Justin Murphy]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Yeah you were right using the white LC pad for SwirlX. The black finesse pad is perfect for glazes and LSPs so #7 will go perfect with it.

DO ONE PANEL AT A TIME THEN REMOVE....DO NOT LET DRY!

All you're wanting to do is get the oils into the paint. That's it. No benefits from letting it dry. It's not a wax. I've actually done this glazing steps 2-3 times per panel to ensure even coverage.....with outstanding results.

[k3ith]

Re: MO7 DA Process

Thanks everyone. This is info I needed. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: MO7 DA Process

This product will behave quite different than SwirlX, so just be prepared for that. You might want to start with the typical 2' x 2' area at first, just to get a feel for the product. When applying by hand you can feel the pad begin to drag a bit as the product starts to dry, and that's a good indicator that it's time to stop and wipe it off. That can be a bit trickier to tell when applying with a D/A, so starting with a small(ish) area might help you. If it dries and you find it difficult to remove, simply apply a small amount of fresh product and then wipe off almost immediately.

But as has been mentioned, better to do two very thin applications rather than one heavy. Wipe off can be a bit different as well - you'll notice that the initial wipe won't necessarily remove all the excess product. Don't expect it to; make your initial wipe then flip the towel and follow through with a slow, second wipe.

[k3ith]

Re: MO7 DA Process

I am through two panels using the M07. Here is my report.

Stoops was definitely right, M07 behaves different than SwirlX. Heck it performs different than any product I have used. I tried a small area at first and did find it very hard to remove. I think that I was using a bit too much product. Also, I was scared from all the posts about not letting it dry and I think I didn't work it in enough. I found that when I worked it in a bit longer on speed 4, it was actually easier to remove. Also, I went through a few different types of MFs (and different wiping patterns) before I found the right one to grab the product. I think it doesn't help that I can't see the product well at all on a white car in the garage, so I am mostly going by drag feel on the towel. It took a good hour for me to get the hang of it, but I now have a comfortable process to take me through the rest of the car.

As for the outcome. Even though I am working a white, clear coat car, I think this step is an asset. After the clay and SwrilX, I was a bit concerned with a lot of what I could see under the lights. I could tell that I had helped some of the swirls but there was a different type of marring (hard for me to explain). I don't know if it is the M07, simply the act of going over it again with a softer pad, or a combination of both but I can no longer see a lot of what was bothering me before. On the hood, I can definitely tell what sections have had the M07 applied.

All in all I am pleased with the outcome and feel M07 is a good step.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: MO7 DA Process

I tried a small area at first and did find it very hard to remove. I think that I was using a bit too much product. Also, I was scared from all the posts about not letting it dry and I think I didn't work it in enough. I found that when I worked it in a bit longer on speed 4, it was actually easier to remove.

k3ith, for someone who's pretty new to this you've got the whole concept of experimentation/trial and error down beautifully! You'd be amazed how many people, even those with a lot more experience than you, would be quick to dismiss a product that didn't behave like other products they've used in the past. In our Advanced Classes we always poll attendees for a list of the important tools one uses during the detailing process. The one that's usually overlooked, the one that's perhaps the most important, and the one you seem to be using to very good effect, is your brain.

Nothing in this game is written in stone, and you have to be willing and able to adapt and think on your feet. It's great to see you, and others like you, talking everyone else through that process. Good stuff!

[k3ith]

Re: MO7 DA Process

k3ith, for someone who's pretty new to this you've got the whole concept of experimentation/trial and error down beautifully! .... Good stuff!

Thanks man. I'm trying and learning is half the fun.

In our Advanced Classes...

I really wished I lived closer as I would love to attend some classes. I put a post out in the "meg's detailer wanted" thread offering to pay someone to come work with me for a couple of hours but haven't received a response. It's fun on my own and talking on the forum, but it would be cool to share and learn with people in person too.