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LSP Myth? -- SPIT SHINE & Layering?

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  • #16
    Re: LSP Myth? -- SPIT SHINE & Layering?

    Originally posted by 3Fitty View Post
    So, in other words, the so called "layering" expert, should re-exam his expertise! LOL

    Wish you had posted that before I got sucked into the putting 5 coats of Zaino on my car for winter!

    LOL.

    This is the only test I've ever seen done that demonstrated diminishing returns. Though I thought this statement by Dave KG was very interesting...

    Originally posted by Dave KG
    Durability is a very hard thing to gauge - measuring the protection in the first instance is not easy, relying on water behaviur for such measurements is a good way to get misleading results - a product can be protecting but loose its water properties due to bonded contaimination in the paintwork that would affect all LSPs for example.

    I see notably better durability from two layers of a wax - but, I wonder if this is because my first layer I spend a lot of time now "working the wax in", try rather than simply wiping on and wiping off, to work the wax into all the voids of the paintwork, setting up a better base with layer two there to ensure fully even coverage and further "working in".

    Something still not clear for me here is the density of the wax layer, do multiple coats perhaps change the density of the wax layer but not the thickness, this would start to go some way to explaining the changes in looks some are claiming to see - but then again, are there really differences or simply psychological effects. One thing's for sure and thats the effect is so small, its hard to differentiate between the two!

    More food for thought though on what is a highly interesting thread with claims actually being backed up with hard science, something from which there is nowhere to hide
    Rasky's Auto Detailing

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    • #17
      Re: LSP Myth? -- SPIT SHINE & Layering?

      I don't think those threads can be put to rest until someone demonstrates the same effect with ZAINO. Or is the opti-seal a similar enough sealant that they would certainly behave the same?

      Did I miss that somewhere?
      2010 Camaro SS RS (black), "OBSSEST"

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      • #18
        Re: LSP Myth? -- SPIT SHINE & Layering?

        Originally posted by OBSSEST View Post
        I don't think those threads can be put to rest until someone demonstrates the same effect with ZAINO. Or is the opti-seal a similar enough sealant that they would certainly behave the same?

        Did I miss that somewhere?
        I agree the Zaino Z2/Z5 needs to be tested as that's the one people go crazy with on the layering. Opti-seal is a sealant though and I would think that it would layer before Zaino since it's a "Wipe On Walk Away" type sealant.
        Rasky's Auto Detailing

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        • #19
          Re: LSP Myth? -- SPIT SHINE & Layering?

          Originally posted by RaskyR1 View Post
          ... I thought this statement by Dave KG was very interesting...

          Something still not clear for me here is the density of the wax layer, do multiple coats perhaps change the density of the wax layer but not the thickness, ...
          It seems Dave KG does not realize his theory on increasing density is not taking into account Laws of Physics 101 that say to increase density of certain material you need to "repack" it, by putting it under pressure and keeping it that way or through some other means (like changes on molecular level, for example).

          Considering there is no magical pressure increase when we add second layer (nobody is adding extra miles of atmosphere over our car, thank God, or else we would be crushed) I would say that goes into domain of non-logical thinking.

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