Final Inspection/Quik Detailer/Last Touch?

[cheapthrills]

What's the difference between these products?

Are Final Inspection and Quik Detailer the same product? One for professional line, and one for consumer?

I know Last touch contains silicones, what makes this different from the others?

I was just curious because I only used Quik Detailer, But just picked up a gallon of Last Touch.

Thanks

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

There are a few differences between Last Touch, Final Inspection and Quik Detailer. First, let me post a reply made by Mike regarding the FI and QD. Afterwards, I will give you the goods on Last Touch.

Mike's post

This is the first question in the Products section of Meguiar's *NEW* FAQ

1. What's the difference between Quik Detailer, (A-33) and Final Inspection, (M-34)?

Final Inspection is a body shop safe, paintable product
Quik Detailer is not body shop safe and is not paintable
The terms body shop safe, and paintable, are terms Meguiar's uses to describe products that do not contain any wax, silicones or other ingredients that will negatively affect surface adhesion in a fresh paint environment.

Final Inspection is specifically formulated for use in body shop environments.

Quik Detailer contains ingredients that could affect surface adhesion in a body shop environment and should not be used in these areas.

Both of these products are designed to maintain that "just detailed" look between washes. Both of these products are high lubricity mist and wipe gloss enhancers that are excellent for use as spray lubricants when claying. Both of these products are excellent for maintaining your car's finish in-between regular washing and waxing. The primary difference is small, very small. Final Inspection was formulated specifically for use in fresh paint environments.

Final Inspection is available in both 16oz spray bottles and 1 gallon containers. Final Inspection can be found at most PBE stores and if the store in question does not stock the gallon size, they will be happy to order it for you and can usually have it in a day or two. We suggest you use our dealer locator search engine to find a store near you and then simply call ahead to insure they carry the 1-gallon container before driving to their store.

Quik Detailer is available in both 16 oz., 24 oz. spray bottles. Quik Detailer, a favorite among people who show and display their cars, can be found in just about any auto parts retail store. To find a store near you that carries Meguiar's Consumer line of products, use our dealer locator search engine.

If I had typed all that, I would have developed carpel tunnel!! LOL!

As for Last Touch, it is not Body Shop safe, but it will leave the finish super glossy and smooth!

For between washes, my favorite has to be Last Touch! For claying, Final Inspection. For general use Quik Detailer or FI.

I hope this helps!

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

This question and questions like this come up often, using the Search button and a few key related search words should pull up some good threads on this topic.

Mike

[cheapthrills]

Tim, Thanks for the info, I just read up on silicones in the FAQ. I found it very interesting. I had no idea Silicones help apply and remove products easier, help to protect and enhance gloss etc. The only thing that freaks me out is "FISH EYES"

Tim, should I worry about using Last Touch? I have a part on the back of my car that need to repainted. Would this cause any problems? or am I just a lil' paranoid from reading that stuff.

Thanks

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by cheapthrills
Tim, Thanks for the info, I just read up on silicones in the FAQ. I found it very interesting. I had no idea Silicones help apply and remove products easier, help to protect and enhance gloss etc. The only thing that freaks me out is "FISH EYES"

Tim, should I worry about using Last Touch? I have a part on the back of my car that need to repainted. Would this cause any problems? or am I just a lil' paranoid from reading that stuff.

Thanks

Check out this article I wrote on this subject,

The Role Silicone Plays in Car Care Products

Here's an excerpt,

Knowledge of paint and other automotive finishes have evolved and grown substantially since the 1950's. The problems painters encountered 50 years ago are more easily addressed with today's modern paint formulas and prepping chemicals. Likewise, the modern paint facility has evolved into a high-tech environment (primarily due to environmental regulations), and paint additives help overcome common flaws. More importantly, modern paint technicians are educated in their craft. Until the 1970’s, there were very few formal training programs available for young men and women entering the automotive repair industry. Today there are certified schools that specialize in formal education for the automotive industry. This includes paint manufacturers, who provide in-depth training for anyone who uses their paint systems.

All professional body shops understand that the cars they repair have been maintained using products that contain waxes, oils and silicone. For this reason, all professional repair facilities perform the necessary preparation work required to insure that the paintwork is free of contaminates before they begin their work. In so doing, the dreaded "fish eyes" will not be a problem. The preparation work includes using special degreasers and silicone removers that effectively remove these substances from the surface or chemically alter their molecular structure in such a way to insure they pose no problems. If there is ever any question or doubt about the surface to which new paint is going to be applied, painters will use a paint additive to eliminate fish eyes. Interestingly enough, the paint additive that eliminates fish eyes is typically a special silicone additive.

If your going to have your car repainted, or a portion of your car repainted in the near future, you can if you wish, opt to avoid applying any wax to those areas. Stick with a product like Meguiar's #80 Speed Glaze




But remember, any professional body shop or custom painter is going to assume your car's finish has had some type of product applied to it that could affect surface adhesion and take the appropriate steps to reduce the potential for surface adhesion problems including fish eyes.

Hope this helps...

Mike

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

I think a lot of people read into the silicone issue way too much. Unless I was planning on getting the car painted within a couple of weeks, I would not worry about using Last Touch or a wax/sealant. As Mike pointed out (while I was typing of course!! ) that most good body shops will take measures to prevent "fisheyes". Just IMHO!

Tim

[cheapthrills]

Mike, Thanks a bunch, I 'll make sure to tell to tell the body shop that the car may contain silicones and waxes, and to take the steps needed to prevent fish eyes or bad adhesion. I'm sure most shops today take this precaution on all there work, Like 2hotford has said. But I better make sure, as their are always shoemakers around.

Being that we are on this topic, does anyone have pics of what fish eyes look like?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by cheapthrills
Being that we are on this topic, does anyone have pics of what fish eyes look like?

Ask and you will recieve...



Mike

[cheapthrills]

Mike, Thats a very nice shot of fish eyes, did you have to use white as an example, my car is white!

I tried doing a search for fish eyes, but this is all that came up:



Mike, would fish eyes appear soon after painting, or a few months or years later?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by cheapthrills
Mike, would fish eyes appear soon after painting, or a few months or years later?

Fisheyes would appear immediately. When the car comes out of the paint booth, if there are going to be fisheyes, you will see them at this point. It's possible more will show up before the paint sets-up, but after the paint becomes dust-free, or tack-free, the paint will have stopped moving/flowing/settling and any fisheyes that are going to be present, will be present.

Mike

[cheapthrills]

Mike, I feel I have learned quite a bit about fish eyes from this post and the links. It always helps to be informed about this stuff, before getting something painted. Thanks