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    White Car tips

    Hello im new to the whole detailing world that why im starting this thread. I have a white 95 honda civic and the paint on it has many cracks and blemishes. Im wondering what would be the best way to remove them because the white is very dull looking. Also what kind of waxes should i use on it. Thanks for any help u guys offer.
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    Re: White Car tips

    Hi, Matchbox. Welcome to MOL. Can you provide some photographs of your car? They will help the brethren to give you the best counsel possible. We need to get a good idea of the true condition of the paint.

    I'm afraid, though, that a good wax is not going to restore the condition of your paint, though of course it won't hurt. You are going to need to do some polishing to remove oxidation, scratches, and swirls. Start reading through the MOL archives. This article is a good place to start: Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle.
    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
    --Al Kimel

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      Re: White Car tips

      Like Al said, a good five step and your favorite wax should do the trick!

      I noticed with a detail I did that getting the paint clear as possible (swirls and scratches gone) gives the paint the best gloss!

      Adding a pure polish prior to waxing may help give the best gloss.

      pictures of the paint would help, cracks in paint are bad.....

      White is a nice color!
      Philippians 2:14 - Do all things without grumbling or questioning,

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        Re: White Car tips

        As previously noted, cracks are not good, but from a distance the color white can hide more blemishes than most any other color. While your paint might not end up like many of the pictures you see in this forum, it will likely be better than it currently is.
        Brad Mower
        SLC, UT

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        • #5
          Re: White Car tips

          Thanks a lot for all your replies.
          Well here is a picture of what im talking about


          I had to go in the garage and hold a flashlight to the car to have it show up in the picture. So there is nothing that i can do to get rid of these? Is it possible to use compound or scratchx on it to minimize there visibility?

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            Re: White Car tips

            There's a very good chance that white paint on a '95 Honda is single stage, and from the picture you've posted it does appear to be. That's sort of a double edged sword for you since white single stage paints are among the hardest paints you'll come across. The pigment used in white paint is titanium dioxide, and it is very hard.

            When working on this paint with something like Ultimate Compound or even M105 you should see white paint transferring onto your pad (unless, of course, you're using a white applicator pad). A machine like the G110 is definitely going to be a big help for you here and you may even find applying some pure polish (Deep Crystal Polish or M07 Show Car Glaze) before starting to machine polish actually helps you a bit. This sounds backwards, but the oils in those products can help to moisturize the paint a bit before working an abrasive against it to correct the defects.

            If you have no option but to work by hand, this is going to take some serious effort to turn around. Of course there's no rule that says you have to do the whole car in one day - it took years to get to this state, you aren't going to reverse it with a quick and easy wipe on, wipe off product. Odds are you won't get it looking perfect, even with a rotary buffer, so you're going to have to live with something less than perfect. How much less is up to you and how hard you're willing to work.
            Michael Stoops
            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            • #7
              Re: White Car tips

              Matchbox,

              Sorry to say that even if you "bust your butt" polishing you are going to end up with a shiny car that has cracks in the finish. What you appear to have is called "crazing". The only fix is to take the surface down to bare metal, prime and repaint.

              Tom

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              • #8
                Re: White Car tips

                I love M20 Polymer Sealant on white:



                Nick
                Tucker's Detailing Services
                815-954-0773
                2012 Ford Transit Connect

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                • #9
                  Re: White Car tips

                  Originally posted by tguil View Post
                  Matchbox,

                  Sorry to say that even if you "bust your butt" polishing you are going to end up with a shiny car that has cracks in the finish. What you appear to have is called "crazing". The only fix is to take the surface down to bare metal, prime and repaint.

                  Tom
                  Yea I searched crazing on Google it appears to be exactly what i have. But at least it isn't that noticeable unless you get close and look hard on my car. I guess ill just have a shiny car with cracks that i notice until i can afford to get it painted. Thanks a lot for all your help everyone.

                  Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                  There's a very good chance that white paint on a '95 Honda is single stage, and from the picture you've posted it does appear to be. That's sort of a double edged sword for you since white single stage paints are among the hardest paints you'll come across. The pigment used in white paint is titanium dioxide, and it is very hard.

                  When working on this paint with something like Ultimate Compound or even M105 you should see white paint transferring onto your pad (unless, of course, you're using a white applicator pad). A machine like the G110 is definitely going to be a big help for you here and you may even find applying some pure polish (Deep Crystal Polish or M07 Show Car Glaze) before starting to machine polish actually helps you a bit. This sounds backwards, but the oils in those products can help to moisturize the paint a bit before working an abrasive against it to correct the defects.

                  If you have no option but to work by hand, this is going to take some serious effort to turn around. Of course there's no rule that says you have to do the whole car in one day - it took years to get to this state, you aren't going to reverse it with a quick and easy wipe on, wipe off product. Odds are you won't get it looking perfect, even with a rotary buffer, so you're going to have to live with something less than perfect. How much less is up to you and how hard you're willing to work.
                  Yea sound like a good idea i am going to try applying some polish and then some ultimate compound when i get the time. My uncle has a DW849 polisher that he can let me use but I am scared to use it and mess up the paint even more should i even try using it? DW849DW849DW849

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