Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

[TH0001]

This is not an official Meguiar's chart, but rather a guide that I put together based on my experience with these products. We are lucky to have such a great company with such great people in Meguiars; Jason Rose took the time out of his schedule to check over the chart, make a couple of format suggestions, and help me tweak the a couple of the ratings.

I am reallly terrible with photoshop (but getting better, have a ton of charts to do for my forum) so these took forever to make. I hope they provide some assistance, and at the very least, look cool.

[Zuke]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Todd you are the man, thanks for putting time into these, Very easy to read and very nice looking!

[Lasthope05]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

One thing I'd like to point out is the W4000 has less cut than the WWHC7. Unsure about the Solo foam thought.

This is a really nice chart though for people to compare aggressiveness of cut to pad, product and machine. Not to mention it looks like a legit chart from megs itself.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Solid, solid work Todd. Very well done.

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

One thing I'd like to point out is the W4000 has less cut than the WWHC7. Unsure about the Solo foam thought.

This is a really nice chart though for people to compare aggressiveness of cut to pad, product and machine. Not to mention it looks like a legit chart from megs itself.

The larger diameter of the W4000 should increase the cutting level (based on similar RPM) hence my rating of it above the So1o pad. In actual applcation, I find both to be very close, hence the 'range'.

[Zuke]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Dang Todd, I was seeing your older posts, asking basic questions to posting this in a 2 year period? KEEP IT UP!

[akimel]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

I now this may be asking too much, but it would also be good to have your estimates about the aggressiveness of UC and SwirlX.

Thanks for the chart!

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Dang Todd, I was seeing your older posts, asking basic questions to posting this in a 2 year period? KEEP IT UP!

I think my original posts are little older then 2 years ago, more like 3(IRCC), but yes it has been a crazy ride. In the 2-2.5 years since I have gotten really serious about detailing I have done more research then I did getting my Business degree, then was able to apply that research over a full time job as a detailer. Working 20-70 hours a week and spending an additional 15-30 doing research (I am an insominac) makes it feel like I have 10-15 years.

Additionally, I picked up a rotary for the first time over 12 years ago working at a bodyshop, although I would not call that work 'good' and detailed on the side in college (1999-2003). I am driven to learn everything I can and how to apply it from knowledge to experience.

Thanks for the compliments!

[Eddie6th]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Although I don't get any of these products(hopefully in the near future),it's a nice chart.Again,easy to follow and yes,the pad graffics are a nice touch,and beneficial.. More than just pleasing to the eye. Actually seeing the pad helps.

The layout is done for product & pad as stated. Would an optional method chart be a possibility? One chart for rotary,and one for DA. Not really make any difference though,just layout.

Do you have any plans in the future for other similair products?

Good work again...Thanks for taking the time..It's very beneficial.

[3Fitty]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Todd,

Couple of things...

1. Great chart.

2. What about the "dreaded" W7006 6.5" pads. Generally Meguiars has recommended it only for removing waxes with a bonnet, have M105 or M205 changed that?

3. Can you comment of the differences in cut between an Orange 4" LC CCS Foam pad and the W7006.

Thanks.

[Nappers]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

.....2. What about the "dreaded" W7006 6.5" pads. Generally Meguiars has recommended it only for removing waxes with a bonnet, have M105 or M205 changed that?

The red cutting pad can be used with the rotary, just not recommended with the DA for paint correction.

I've used it on my rotary and did okay but left holograms like an old baseball card! LOL

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

I now this may be asking too much, but it would also be good to have your estimates about the aggressiveness of UC and SwirlX.

Thanks for the chart!

I personally find UC to be a little less then M105, although I have tested them side by side (they are marketed differentley).

I would rate SwirlX about the same as D151, which IME, is a little less aggressive (in terms of rate of cut) then M205.

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Todd,

Couple of things...

1. Great chart.

2. What about the "dreaded" W7006 6.5" pads. Generally Meguiars has recommended it only for removing waxes with a bonnet, have M105 or M205 changed that?

3. Can you comment of the differences in cut between an Orange 4" LC CCS Foam pad and the W7006.

Thanks.

1) Thank you, I think it looks pretty cool, but always open to suggestions on how to make it better.

2) The 'dreaded' W7006 6.5" pads use a completely different foam, that in relation to this chart, would be equal, or close to equal, to the So1o 'Yellow' Wool Pad.

I'm not sure if M105/M205 change Meguiar's recommendations for these pads, but they can scour the paint and leave behind a little haze (they don't finish as well as the newer cutting foam).

As far as the new 7207 Foam, I have used it on a DA quite a bit and personally find that it finishes near as well as their yellow polishing pad. It really is one of the best foam materials used. Great cut and a very high gloss finish. It is a closed cell foam, so if you are going to use it on a DA, make sure that it is completely dry!!!

3) It is a little bit of an apple to orange comparision. The 7006 is a 6 inch pad where as the LC pad you asked me to reference is a 4 inch pad.

If we look at it from foam to foam (taking out size differences) The 7006 foam is significantly more aggressive then the LC Orange pad and leaves behind more surface scouring.

On a rotary polisher the difference in cut would be exaggerated because a larger diameter pad will act more aggressive given a similar RPM.

On a random orbital dual action polisher smaller pads act more aggressive, which will close the gap in cut somewhat (it might even allow the 4 inch orange pad to act more aggressive then the 7006), but you have to shrink your working section in relation.

In all cases the 7006 will leave behind more of a haze, IME.

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

Although I don't get any of these products(hopefully in the near future),it's a nice chart.Again,easy to follow and yes,the pad graffics are a nice touch,and beneficial.. More than just pleasing to the eye. Actually seeing the pad helps.

The layout is done for product & pad as stated. Would an optional method chart be a possibility? One chart for rotary,and one for DA. Not really make any difference though,just layout.

Do you have any plans in the future for other similair products?

Good work again...Thanks for taking the time..It's very beneficial.

Actually I am doing a bunch of charts for my forum, but they are not all benefical (nor would they have a place) on Meguiar's forum. As such, if the charts are helpful (and they benefit Meguiar's users) I have no problem and am honored to post them here.

[Kevin Brown]

Re: Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish and Pad Chart

AWESOME!!!