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  • Best Sealant for "Durability"

    My thread on NXT Gen and my feedback on it seems to have turned into a durability thread.

    I'm hearing from folks on the forum that NXT Gen doesn't hold up to well. I will judge this with my car over the next couple of months. It's 115 out here so if this sealant is going to break down, it will get a great test.

    My concern is this: I don't want to have to wax more often than every 3 months, this seems reasonable. I want to seal my car's finish due to the nature of the intense sun out here in AZ. I have always been pleased with the Gold Class Wax, but thought since I moved out here, I should go to a sealant.

    I hate to steer away from Meguiars products, but I am curious to other suggestions. Thanks!

    Lisa

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    Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

    If your using NXT 2.0, I would suggest 2-3 coats of it, a coat every 12hrs. I have found one coat doesn't hold up like I would expect a Meguairs product to.

    If you want to look at other sealants, I like Ultima Paint Guard Plus. Also take a look at Optimum Opt-Seal.

    The great thing about those two products is that they are apply and walk away.

    So if you already have NXT 2.0, then apply 2-3 coats of it, and if your in AZ, probably 3 coats.
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    • #3
      Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

      Thanks! Heading back out to do a second coat now...

      Lisa

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      • #4
        Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

        Originally posted by AeroCleanse View Post
        If your using NXT 2.0, I would suggest 2-3 coats of it, a coat every 12hrs. I have found one coat doesn't hold up like I would expect a Meguairs product to.

        So if you already have NXT 2.0, then apply 2-3 coats of it, and if your in AZ, probably 3 coats.
        It's been stated in this forum by Mequiars and several other sources that NXT does not layer so applying a second coat won't make it any thicker, it will only ensure that it's applied to all areas. Applying 3 coats would probably not add any value.

        As mentioned recently in another thread about NXT, how long it lasts is depended on many factors (how clean the paint was when applying, the local weather, if the vehicle is garaged, etc.

        I'd recommend applying UQW or the like after washing in order to keep up the sealant. Doing this, I find that NXT easily holds up for 3 months and you could probably go 6 months. During the winter I like to top it off with a hard carnuba wax.

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        • #5
          Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

          Phew, I didn't head out yet as I was thinking the same thing...why apply multiple coats, doesn't this defeat the purpose?

          I'll pick up some of the UQW, and see how that works...

          Lisa

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          • #6
            Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

            Originally posted by tcope1 View Post
            It's been stated in this forum by Mequiars and several other sources that NXT does not layer so applying a second coat won't make it any thicker, it will only ensure that it's applied to all areas. Applying 3 coats would probably not add any value.
            It doesn't layer? Thats interesting, I mean its a paint sealant not a wax.
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              Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

              Originally posted by itself View Post
              Phew, I didn't head out yet as I was thinking the same thing...why apply multiple coats, doesn't this defeat the purpose?

              I'll pick up some of the UQW, and see how that works...

              Lisa
              Check out the video that Meguairs has on youtube.com



              It explains Ultimate Quick Detailer and Ultimate Quick Wax.
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              • #8
                Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                Guys,

                Thanks so much for your patience and for taking the time to explain things. I am so darn festidious about my car, and I always get way overexcited about a new product.

                I will take a peek at the video!

                Lisa

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                • #9
                  Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                  Originally posted by itself View Post
                  Guys,

                  Thanks so much for your patience and for taking the time to explain things. I am so darn festidious about my car, and I always get way overexcited about a new product.

                  I will take a peek at the video!

                  Lisa
                  There are so many products on the market that you just have to find what works for you. Being a professional, I have to deal with cars that aren't that well taken care of.

                  When its your own car, you have way more control of things. I hope the video helps!
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                  • #10
                    Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                    Interesting products, not sure I am comfortable with either as I live on a dirt road and would be afraid to rub grit into my finish. I am MUCH more comfortable washing and waxing on a regular basis.

                    Lisa

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                    • #11
                      Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                      Originally posted by AeroCleanse View Post
                      It doesn't layer? Thats interesting, I mean its a paint sealant not a wax.
                      Some info:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                        Originally posted by tcope1 View Post
                        "12. Are multiple coats of wax beneficial? (Layering)

                        That depends on what effect you are looking for: protection or beauty.

                        Protection

                        If your looking for the maximum protection possible, then one or two thin coats of wax, maybe even up to three thin coats of wax, has the potential to create the most surface protection depending on the wax, the surface itself and whether or not sufficient time has passed in-between each application. Of course the law of diminishing returns states that you will not create exponentially greater layers of protection with each application, but Meguiar's knows that a second, and sometimes third application will insure uniform, thorough coverage over the majority of the surface, thus maximizing the protection.

                        Environmental conditions today demand more frequent washing and waxing in order to prevent costly damage to the outer layers of paint. Just as important as a second, and possibly a third coating of wax is to provide the maximum amount of protection in any one detailing session, (especially on the horizontal surfaces), it is also vitally important that you wax more often to maintain your finish. This is especially true if your car is a daily driver exposed to the elements and parked outdoors most of the time."

                        Seems like 2-3 layers is whats suggested here. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
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                          Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                          Originally posted by AeroCleanse View Post
                          It doesn't layer? Thats interesting, I mean its a paint sealant not a wax.
                          NXT 2.0 isn't a PURE sealant. I think you're confusing it's purpose.

                          It's an OTC product meant for consumers. Most of which have no clue what "Prep-work" is.

                          So I'm going to assume NXT 2.0 is a blended sealant, and since it has Kaolin clay it has very very mild cleaners in it to help it bond to un-prepped surfaces.

                          Which is also why it doesn't layer well.

                          A pure sealant would be something like Zaino Z2. Obviously, putting Z2 on a un-prepped surface is practically useless.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                            Collinite 476s paste wax or Meguiars M16. You'll be set for a few months.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Best Sealant for "Durability"

                              Lisa, I will be interested to hear about your experiences with NXT over the next few months. Apply two coats. I will be surprised if you don't get at least two months from it, assuming you are using a good quality car shampoo at the correct dilution. Other Meguiar's waxes for you to consider: M16 Paste Wax and M20 Polymer Sealant. Both enjoy reputations for durability.

                              Non-Meguiar's waxes/sealants that enjoy reputations for solid durability include:

                              1) Collinite 845, 476s, and 915.
                              2) Finish Kare 1000p
                              3) Duragloss 105

                              Most of these must be ordered online, though one can often order Duragloss products through NAPA stores.

                              Good luck!

                              Cheers,
                              Al
                              Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
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