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    Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

    I not sure if this is true as I don't have access to factory service manuals. This was posted on another forum in their detailing section.
    Also, clay bar is not a recommended procedure/product by Ford, GM, Chrysler for removal of any paint contaminent (as stated in the factory service manuals) nor by PPG, GE or Sherwin Williams (the 3 most prominent auto paint mfg's in the US). While there are specific (and very limited) uses for claybar, i would not recommend using any "name brand retailer's" off the shelf product. The question to ask yourself is this, "would I wet sand my paint to solve this imperfection?" Thats what claybar does- Meguiar's for example has a grit rating of 3500 (approx)- and is considered to be very coarse by industry standards (as compared to professional spec products such as Prowax whose clay bar is rated at 5000 grit).
    I know there are a bunch of professional detailers on this site so I am curious as to what your thoughts are to this.

    I have an 09 Ford F150 with which I have used Megs smooth clay bar in the kit prior to using sealant and it worked wonders to the surface.

    Over time could this somehow damage the clear coat? Or is this all hog wash?
    2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost
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    Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

    I call hog wash, i've heard the more aggersive clay can cause some marring but not the mild, If i put too much pressure on the clay it simply tears off, The only concern with clay I can think of is dropping it and re-using it
    "Every moment frontin and maxin
    Chillin in the car they spent all day waxin    "

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    • #3
      Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

      Sounds like a load of c--p to me. I've clayed my 99 BLACK truck several times and never had any marring at all!
      Black......the ONLY color!

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      • #4
        Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

        I would like to see the documentation for the claim that Ford, etc., discourage the use of consumer claybars.
        Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
        --Al Kimel

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        • #5
          Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

          I have used a clay bar on many different cars. Have never experienced what they are talking about.
          quality creates its own demand

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          • #6
            Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..




            Link to thread.....please!
            Rasky's Auto Detailing

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            • #7
              Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

              Originally posted by akimel View Post
              I would like to see the documentation for the claim that Ford, etc., discourage the use of consumer claybars.
              So would I...

              Maybe I will ask the person who stated this to provide such documentation.

              The originator of the thread was wondering if a clay bar would take off a paint scuff. further down is where this was quoted.
              Here is the link:http://www.f150online.com/forums/car...ffs-paint.html
              2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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              • #8
                Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                Of course they don'tt like it, how else would they sell you the $1000 "paint protection plan"?

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                  Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                  Originally posted by sdprius858 View Post
                  Of course they don'tt like it, how else would they sell you the $1000 "paint protection plan"?
                  You've got a point there !!
                  2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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                    Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                    Originally posted by sdprius858 View Post
                    Of course they don'tt like it, how else would they sell you the $1000 "paint protection plan"?
                    To be fair, auto manufacturers don't sell those paint protection plans... it is usually a dealer add-on.

                    As for the claim by the post, 3,500 grit sandpaper? That's so absurd it's comical.

                    Even the Aggressive professional grade clay only sometimes leaves marring...how can they claim that the normal clay is like 3,500 grit sandpaper? Wouldn't that leave an insane amount of marring?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                      Remember these are the companies that know what they are doing so well they are almost out of business.
                      2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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                      • #12
                        Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                        I thought the quik clay was non-abrasive? It just picks up the contaminants as you slide it over the paint.

                        If it's dropped onto the ground where it picks up dirt, or the surface/clay is not lubricated with quik detailer then it might cause some problems.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                          Oh great, looks like I am in trouble.............

                          Sounds kinda ridiculous to me.
                          Nick
                          Tucker's Detailing Services
                          815-954-0773
                          2012 Ford Transit Connect

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                          • #14
                            Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                            Guys, please remember that this was a quote from another forum, by someone claiming to be quoting from three auto manufactures service manuals and three paint manufacturers documentation.......... but no reference to actual source documentation.... In other words, nothing to get worked up over, it's just stirring the pot to see what floats up.....

                            Regards

                            Kaptain "No point in trying to work up a lather if you don't a bar of soap" Zero

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                              Re: Clay bar not recommended for use by Ford, GM etc..

                              Originally posted by Tuck91 View Post
                              Oh great, looks like I am in trouble.............
                              Be careful, Nick. The Ford secret police may come knocking on your door ... late at night ... dressed in grey trench coats.
                              Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                              --Al Kimel

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