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The Taurus and LS were tailgating that gravel truck Fast and Furious Stylezzzzz!!!1
Anyway, get a 3M Clear Bra. It can withstand those gravels.
FYI, the Lexus has an aluminum hood, and possibly aluminum fenders. Corrosion is not a concern to the Lexus. I wonder why the Ford promotion video assumes that corrosion would be an issue on the Lexus LS hood when it is made entirely of aluminum to compensate for weight for its massive V8.
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My 1985 Toyota SR5 Pickup died a quick, painful, rust red death in 13 years with plenty of rust showing long before....... It was claimed to have been related to "recycled" steel by a local dealer, but as far as I know, all steel used today AND for that matter, since the beginning of the iron age, has been recycled from dirty, dug up from the earth, rust, aka iron oxide. I don't see how adding previously refined steel could do anything but improve the mix and as far as I know, all steel mills will reuse steel remnants ahead of having to purify mined iron oxide. Naturally, steel producers will supply whatever quality the customer demands and is willing to pay for. Toyota made it's choice in what it wanted in 1985 and now I make my choice in what to buy.
I don't think I'll ever buy another Toyota, good as they may be today, and, come to think of it, the only brand that has never left me stranded, making me call for a tow truck, has been Hyundai and I'm on my third one. That said, I'll still consider just about anything when I'm looking to purchase next time.
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Christian
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All I have to say is, glad that wasn't my car!
Seriously though, I'd definitely rather have the Lexus than the Ford.
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Originally posted by Mark Kleis View PostThere was a point when Toyota products were complete junk too, but I focus more on the quality of the product as it would be if I bought it today, rather than how it was 10-20 years ago.
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Mark, I don't know, and I am not calling you a liar, but no matter who I speak to who own Fords, they have had problems at one time or another if not more often than not. I have talked to many who own everything to Explorers, Mustangs, Taurus, Focus and others. Cars just don't hold up. These are cars from 2000 to current date.
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Taurus looks quite good. Still prefer Lexus though.
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Originally posted by MyFirstES300 View PostPaint? Who cares about the paint? Yes, it's a plus, but what good is a "quality" paint job if the car itself is always in the shop? I'd rather have the "poorer quality" paint job if the car runs with minimal maintenance and doesn't need transmissions, radiators, head gaskets, etc.
Incidentally, who in their right mind would drive a Lexus in those conditions when one spends that kind of money. OK, buy the Taurus as the winter car, keep the Lexus as the "show" car.
I owned a Sable and a Taurus. Both were junk, and for what I paid in repairs and cost of both vehicles, I could be driving a NEW Lexus today. Shame on me. I'll take the Lexus any day.
BTW, Ford has been tied with Toyota in initial quality for about 3 years, and has been ahead of Honda for several months, and the latest report puts Ford alone in first ahead of Toyota. Times are changing my friend
PS, FWIW, collectively, in the last 10 years alone my immediate family (7 drivers) have had over 10 Fords new and used, some with over 250,000 miles, many with 150k+, and NEVER once on any had anything beyond minimal maintenance.
My 2005 F150 went 2.5 years without issues, my Dad's 2004 F150 has 5 years and 94k miles and zero trips to the dealer, my Focus is 3 years and 33k and zero issues, our 2 Aerostars both went over 185k before we sold them..
You get the point...
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Uhh..... I thought we've always said to start with the "LEAST AGGRESSIVE" method first....... Based on the condition of the paint on both the Ford and that Lexus... I would have thought a cleaner wax might have been quite sufficient..... then again, what do I know?
In the real world, I'll have to take a second look at Ford when it comes time to purchasing my next car/truck. It would seem they (Ford) actually have their stuff together for a change, unlike the rest of the North American Auto Makers.
Regards
Christian aka
Kaptain "Still driving my Hyundai" Zero
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Originally posted by john m. View PostGlad to actually see a paint test, and more so that Ford put so much thought into the paint instead of slapping it on there. Sure made me cringe, Ill be having nightmares now thanks to you Mark!
One thing Ive been liking lately is the quality of cars that have been so greatly priced. The sad thing is no matter how nice the Ford is people would still rather have the Lexus because of the name. Oh, and man I wish I had Taner Foust's job!
Incidentally, who in their right mind would drive a Lexus in those conditions when one spends that kind of money. That is a marketing exaggeration. OK, buy the Taurus as the winter car, keep the Lexus as the "show" car.
I owned a Sable and a Taurus. Both were junk, and for what I paid in repairs and cost of both vehicles, I could be driving a NEW Lexus today. Shame on me. I'll take the Lexus any day.
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Glad to actually see a paint test, and more so that Ford put so much thought into the paint instead of slapping it on there. Sure made me cringe, Ill be having nightmares now thanks to you Mark!
One thing Ive been liking lately is the quality of cars that have been so greatly priced. The sad thing is no matter how nice the Ford is people would still rather have the Lexus because of the name. Oh, and man I wish I had Taner Foust's job!
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The Taurus bears a strong resemblance to the Camry. Is that their target market?
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Yikes! That was some test. Ford is really trying to put out a quality product. The 10 Taurus looks very good. Thanks for sharing that.
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That was a pretty cool video and I like the way the taurus looks too.
Lexus paint is horrible when it comes to rocks. My dad's IS350 is only a couple years old and it has TONS of rock chips. He doesn't drive insanely fast either and living in California, there aren't anywhere as many rocks on the roads as there would be in other states.
Very cool to see how well the taurus paint stood up to the rocks. Is this the car that will have a glass fleck rather than metallic?
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I have to admit that the Taurus doesn't look bad at all.
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