Different LSPs for different seasons?

[Jossy92]

Should I use NXT in the winter for the hydrophobic properties: to protect against acid rain and rain splatter from freeway driving?

Should I use M-7 and M-26, in the summer for the oils: to protect the 20 year old paint against heat and the beginning hints of failure?

Just trying to walk the walk and get out of my head when selecting products.

[Deaner5]

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I think it all depends on your preferences and how often you want to wax and such. I used to do NXT in the winter (for the better protection and longer life) and Gold Class in the summer for that darker look. Now I just use NXT 2.0 all year around mainly because I want that added protection, plus I can sometimes let it slip a few weeks and not feel horrible about it.

Another thing to remember is that NXT 2.0 does have some of those cleaning and polishing properties as well so I would imagine that you are getting some of those oils in the winter as well. I think NXT all year around would be fine, but if you want to change it up a little, go for it.

I wouldn't mind living in SoCal and just worrying about the rain, instead I have to worry about all that salt and other stuff they put on the roads here.

[akimel]

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Should I use NXT in the winter for the hydrophobic properties: to protect against acid rain and rain splatter from freeway driving? Should I use M-7 and M-26, in the summer for the oils: to protect the 20 year old paint against heat and the beginning hints of failure?

My guess is that the correct answer is no. Our cars need the protection that a good carnauba wax or synthetic sealant can provide, and it needs this protection year around. It's not clear to me, however, that the new hydrophobic technology, in itself, provides superior protection: I suspect that the benefit is purely cosmetic. A lot of people love to watch the beading and sheeting.

Nor does clear coated paint surfaces need the addition of oils. Paint is not like, say, our skin. It doesn't need to be kept moist; it doesn't need to be kept moisturized--at least, I don't think it does. I welcome correction and instruction from one of Meguiar's chemists (hint, hint).

So my advice is: find a wax/sealant that looks good and provides the kind of durability you need. During the wintertime I use a protectant that has good durability, as I know that my opportunities to wax may be limited. But during the non-winter months, I don't pay much attention to durability, as I try to wax my cars on a monthly basis. For me, the decisive consideration is how a wax makes my car look.

Cheers,
Al

[Jossy92]

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I think NXT all year around would be fine, but if you want to change it up a little, go for it.
I wouldn't mind living in SoCal and just worrying about the rain

Thanks for your thoughts, maybe in the summer, I will try using M-7 on the horizontal surfaces and NXT on top on the whole car? Or maybe M21? Sure gets confusing.

The weather is always nice. I am so bored with nice. I would like to see an actual season once in a while. However we have earthquakes and 27 billion dollar deficit.

[Jossy92]

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So my advice is: find a wax/sealant that looks good and provides the kind of durability you need. During the wintertime I use a protectent that has good durability, as I know that my opportunities to wax may be limited. But during the non-winter months, I don't pay much attention to durability, as I try to wax my cars on a monthly basis. For me, the decisive consideration is how a wax makes my car look.

Thanks. I think maybe the results provided by NXT are lost on what is left of my clear-coat. It seems like if I add M-7 I get a beautiful sheen and don't notice the thousands of little "crowsfeet" in the hood. That looks nice to my eye, so I guess I will go with it for now. Maybe in the winter, when I tend to let the car go a bit, I will go for NXT only.

[Justin A]

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Thanks for your thoughts, maybe in the summer, I will try using M-7 on the horizontal surfaces and NXT on top on the whole car? Or maybe M21? Sure gets confusing.

The weather is always nice. I am so bored with nice. I would like to see an actual season once in a while. However we have earthquakes and 27 billion dollar deficit.

M7 isn't an LSP - it's a next-to-LSP. Use it before waxing as it doesn't provide any protection on its own. If you use M7 and then NXT, you'll like what you see.

To answer your original question, I use different products for different seasons. During the summer/nice months, I use a Carnauba product because they look great. During the winter, I use a synthetic because they tend to last longer and opportunities to wax are few and far between after October around here.

[Trojan fan]

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[Jossy92]

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During the summer/nice months, I use a Carnauba product because they look great.

Thanks and what carnuba do you use?

[Jossy92]

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Arnie just fixed that 27 billion....:http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/ima...s/pullhair.gif

Not sure what to say. Or is it fear?

[Michael Stoops]

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Jossy92, as you well know our "seasons" here in SoCal don't really give us a wide swing in ambient conditions. One of our MOL members, the other pc, once posted a picture of what he did different in winter and summer here - basically he uses SPF 15 sunscreen in winter when driving with the top down on his Jensen Healey and SPF 30 in summer. While that irritates guys from Saskatchewan to Maine, it illustrates the point pretty well.

Regular use of a quality product or combination of products is going to be your best bet. If the clear on your 20 year old car is on its last legs, and you find the combination of M07/M26 to be visually appealing, just stick with that year round. About your only real option would be to use the M07 to conceal the worn state of the clear and top it with NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 for maximum protection. Just don't use the M07 as your LSP because it won't last long at all, winter or summer.

[Nappers]

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In my experience, I tend to use M21 / NXT 2.0 during the winter as the snow and rain wreaks havoc on our cars as well as the road cinders and ice melt Oregon Dept. of Trans throws all over the place and it beads quite well during the winter and temps dipping in low teens, single digits. Don't have much during winter to wash the car....One time I washed it and it was so cold, the wash mitt froze to the car......My wife thought it was funny....l didn't...LOL! The road cinders just swirls the car bad!!!!

During the summer, Good ol' M16/M26/NXT 2.0/GC/M26.......Whatever mood I'm in.....

[Jossy92]

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[IF]...you find the combination of M7/M26 to be visually appealing, just stick with that year round.

[Or]....use the M7 to conceal the worn state of the clear and top it with NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 for maximum protection. .

I guess I will play with it. Maybe M7 with M26 in the summer and M7 + NXT when there is water in the streets.

I have seen the term "nourish" the paint and "seal" as I have read about M7, M26,NXT, etc. I guess I was hoping to slow the flashing off of whatever binds the clear coat to the color coat. I always think of Megs in terms of nourishing.

This pig needs more than just lipstick. ......moisturize, moisturize, moisturize.....

Right now I am leaning toward oils in summer and oils + hydrophobics in winter using your recommended products. Sure appreciate the help.

[Jossy92]

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I tend to use M21 / NXT 2.0 during the winter as the snow and rain wreaks havoc on our cars...
During the summer, Good ol' M16/M26/NXT 2.0/GC/M26.......Whatever mood I'm in.....

I don't tend to detail as much in the winter either, so NXT or M21 seems to be a good choice from your experience.

Toying with using M21....if what I read about it having more oils than NXT is true.

Thank you.

Maybe when I get a new car I will not be so "prevention" oriented.

[Nappers]

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It's worked for me the last couple of years or so.....

Of course good preparation with any wax is needed and most waxes are pretty durable and I also used UQD as a booster and recently purchased UQW and love it.

[Sandstone]

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I welcome correction and instruction from one of Meguiar's chemists (hint, hint).

Sad but I'm all you have right now .

Yes paint can be oiled or nourished somewhat like a wood finish can. The more porous the paint, the better it will take the oil so I would think that a soft porous single stage will tend to absorb (and probably adsorb) more than a hard almost non porous clear coat.