GLAZE: Proper Use

[RickyMartinZ28]

I've been doing some searching and can't really find any information on how to properly use a glaze...

The bottle says to not let it dry on the surface, but then its a pain to remove... actually is a pain to remove either way...

What is proper? And what is the best?

-Rick

[Tuck91]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

If your using a product like M07 Show Car Glaze then its best to remove it after your done working it in the paint. If used properly, M07 is very easy to use.

DC2 is a very similar product but is a tad bit more user friendly.

[Murr1525]

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I think you can pretty much let DC2 dry and it will still come off easy.

[Mike Phillips]

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A glaze or pure polish in the Meguiar's line should be applies very thin, worked in gently using overlapping passes over the section you're working and then immediately wiped off.

If you're applying a thin coat it should wipe reasonably easy. Take off small bites, don't' try to take off huge sections of polish in a single wipe.

Don't let a pure polish dry, it will be more difficult to remove.

[MyFirstES300]

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Mike, for the situations when a polish does dry, is spraying some water on the polish an acceptable method for aid in buffing off polish?

[Tuck91]

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Mike, for the situations when a polish does dry, is spraying some water on the polish an acceptable method for aid in buffing off polish?

Im not Mike, but think a lot of folks use a quik detailer if they have a hard time getting the polish off after they are done working it in. should be fine to aid in the removal, not sure what could be wrong with water?

Mike will know for sure.

[H.E.D]

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i personally like #3 and when it sticks i use 50/50 water and rubbing alcohol to wipe it off.i spray it on the MF and wipe. works for me

[akimel]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

Mike, for the situations when a polish does dry, is spraying some water on the polish an acceptable method for aid in buffing off polish?

Let me take a stab at what Mike P. might say: If you find that a pure polish is going dry on you, then this is a sign either (a) you are working it too long, (b) you are working it over too large a space, or (c) both. Shrink your work space and do not work the polish so long. Gently massage it into the paint (say, 12"x12") and then wipe it off immediately.

If you still have the drying problem, then switch to M05 (Show Car Glaze). It could be that ambient conditions are affecting the polish. M05 is a user-friendly product that works well, e.g., in high humidity.

As far as the use of water or quik detailer to aid in removal, my guess is that this would be better than "scraping" it off with your towel.

Okay, Mike, how did I do?

[Murr1525]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

Mike would also say:

"Like disolves like, so reapply the polish."

[MyFirstES300]

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I read that idea from another member on MOL. It seemed like a good idea, just wanted to know if that would be OK in that the spraying of water wouldn't compromise the polish applied on the paint.

[RickyMartinZ28]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

I worked mine in briefly with a PC and a polish pad. We have extremely high humidity here and it was a pain to remove...

I just don't have much experience with glaze... so is it basically a polish with minimal cutting ability?

-Rick

[Mike Phillips]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

Mike, for the situations when a polish does dry, is spraying some water on the polish an acceptable method for aid in buffing off polish?

A polish should never dry but we know it does because the average person has what I call the Car Wax Mentality", that is they think all paint care products need to be applied, allowed to dry and then wiped off and actually that's only true for our waxes and the above issue is what led to the writing of this article.

Which products need to dry before removing?


We cover this in every Saturday class because so many people just don't know that the only paint care products that need to dry are the waxes and so many people attending the classes operate under the false assumption that you let everything dry, thus we set the record straight and hopefully, with enough time this will be shared often enough by people that learn the correct information that it will spread and everyone will then understand which products need to dry and which products don't need to dry before removing.

In fact we post the above link so often it's a Sticky in the Hot Topics
forum.

Im not Mike, but think a lot of folks use a quik detailer if they have a hard time getting the polish off after they are done working it in. should be fine to aid in the removal, not sure what could be wrong with water?

Mike will know for sure.

If you come across this problem then you can try using a quick detailer, or the 50/50 mix of water and rubbing alcohol, or just carefully use a towel with a nap to carve it off. A high quality cotton towel with a large loopy nap will help as the nap, (the little cotton loops), will slice into the layer of polish and help to break it up so you can wipe it off.

i personally like #3 and when it sticks i use 50/50 water and rubbing alcohol to wipe it off.i spray it on the MF and wipe. works for me

M03 is a great pure polish and a lot of people love to use it by hand or with a DA Polisher. It's a very wet polish and used correctly it should wipe off easy after being worked in and over the surface.

Let me take a stab at what Mike P. might say: If you find that a pure polish is going dry on you, then this is a sign either,

(a) you are working it too long,
(b) you are working it over too large a space, or
(c) both.

Correct. Sometimes the problem can be too warm of temperatures but if that's the problem then the cure is to shrink your work area size down and if you're already done this then you're probably working in an environment outside of the recommended range for using our products which might not be your fault but it's also not Meguiar's fault. Warm and HOT temperatures in summer months can and does make working with many paint care products more difficult, both for our products and other companies products.

Shrink your work space and do not work the polish so long. Gently massage it into the paint (say, 12"x12") and then wipe it off immediately.

Correct.

If you still have the drying problem, then switch to M05 (Show Car Glaze). It could be that ambient conditions are affecting the polish. M05 is a user-friendly product that works well, e.g., in high humidity.

This might not work if temperatures are high, M05 is for high humidity regions, but often times high humidity can also mean cold temperatures, like Oregon and Washington in the winter, working in Atlanta, George in the summer would be high humidity and high temperatures and that's going to cause this product to try to dry fast which could make wipe-off difficult.

A product that doesn't get a lot of air time on the forum is our M81 Hand Polish, it's a lot like M07 except more tweaked for modern clear coats and wipe-off is much easier than M07

M81 Hand Polish

As far as the use of water or quik detailer to aid in removal, my guess is that this would be better than "scraping" it off with your towel.

When it comes to dried polish on paint and you're in your garage struggling with it, then often times it's whatever idea you can come up with!

But yes, a quality cotton towel with a large nap will help you to slice and carve the dried polish off the paint, using some kind of wetting agent can help too. The best thing is to experiment first with a polish if you're not experienced with how to work with these types of products by only applying to a small section and wiping it off to see how you do and then either go for it to come back to the forum for some tips.

Okay, Mike, how did I do?

You done did good.

Mike would also say:

"Like dissolves like, so reapply the polish."

Sometimes that's the best option. Depends on whether or not the dried polish is still mushy or like concrete.

I read that idea from another member on MOL. It seemed like a good idea, just wanted to know if that would be OK in that the spraying of water wouldn't compromise the polish applied on the paint.

All of our pure polishes are water soluble, so using a mist of water, or a quick detailer or the 50/50 mix of water and Isopropyl Alcohol will usually work.

[tylorweaver]

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In addition to what Mike Phillips has so greatfully contributed.. When I use the M07 Show Car Glaze, not M05, believe that was a typo from someone above.. (and yes, I live in Atlanta.. LOL), even working in a slightly larger than usual area.. maybe 20"x20" MAX, like if I'm pressed for time. I usually apply it by hand with a Meg's Hi-Tech Foam Applicator pad, overlapping strokes.. Not allowing it to dry, immeadiately after applying the last stroke of M07 to my finish, I remove all-to-most of the remaining glaze from the finish with ONE microfiber towel... then finally, immeadiately after wiping off the M07 with that first microfiber towel, using a NEW one, I lightly buff the finish to a shine, leaving remaining glaze or residue streaks behind

Oh and just to clarify things with removing dried on product..
If I EVER happen to have remaining dried product left anywhere, I ALWAYS use Ultimate Quick Detailer, Last Touch, or Final Inspection.. if you don't have any of the mentioned products (which you should have at least one of those as a superior and final Quick Detailer product).. then use the regular Meg's Quick Detailer. The mentioned Quick Detailer, dried-remnant-product removal technique, should be used by lightly misting the area on your finish with the Quick Detailer, or directly onto your clean microfiber buffing towel.


Hope this helps!!

[Mike Phillips]

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(and yes, I live in Atlanta.. LOL),

That's funny... I picked Atalanta, Georgia because I went their for a race one summer and the heat and humidity about killed me... (hot and sticky)

Seems like it would be impossible place to own and drive a convertible...

Good tips on the application and removal of M07

[tylorweaver]

Re: GLAZE: Proper Use

In addition to what Mike Phillips has so greatfully contributed.. When I use the M07 Show Car Glaze, not M05, believe that was a typo from someone above.. (and yes, I live in Atlanta.. LOL), even working in a slightly larger than usual area.. maybe 20"x20" MAX, like if I'm pressed for time. I usually apply it by hand with a Meg's Hi-Tech Foam Applicator pad, overlapping strokes.. Not allowing it to dry, immeadiately after applying the last stroke of M07 to my finish, I remove all-to-most of the remaining glaze from the finish with ONE microfiber towel... then finally, immeadiately after wiping off the M07 with that first microfiber towel, using a NEW one, I lightly buff the finish to a shine, leaving NO remaining glaze or residue streaks behind

sorry, typo.. left out the "No" lol..

And thanks Mike! Yea, it's rough here during the summers.. I've only lived here for about 5 years now, originally from So-Cal actually! lol

When I first moved out here, it was like that.. CRAZY high humidity, and very very hot.. Now, it's not as bad Either that, or I've just become accustomed to it.. lol

Thanks again Mike! You're the man!!!!