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Pardon what might seem like a simple answerable question, but to what extent do I know when to stop applying the product to the glass? I will be applying it by hand also. I mean do you stop when the water spots are roughly all gone or is there a “dry-buff” period to avoid? I have come upon a couple of my friends cars that have spots that can not be removed by a simple wash or by using Windex or Stoner’s Invisible Glass Cleaner. I have asked around and was told to check the thread posted a while back Here. It says about using M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner, but no where could I find where it says about when to basically stop wiping the product. I just thought I would ask before I attempt to do this and knowing my luck screw something up that would come back to bite me in the rump later down the road. Also, I assume that to remove the product, just use a clean microfiber? Am I thinking right or is the midnight hour getting to me lol? Thanks for your help ahead of time… Ryan
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Pardon what might seem like a simple answerable question, but to what extent do I know when to stop applying the product to the glass? I will be applying it by hand also. I mean do you stop when the water spots are roughly all gone or is there a “dry-buff” period to avoid? I have come upon a couple of my friends cars that have spots that can not be removed by a simple wash or by using Windex or Stoner’s Invisible Glass Cleaner. I have asked around and was told to check the thread posted a while back Here. It says about using M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner, but no where could I find where it says about when to basically stop wiping the product. I just thought I would ask before I attempt to do this and knowing my luck screw something up that would come back to bite me in the rump later down the road. Also, I assume that to remove the product, just use a clean microfiber? Am I thinking right or is the midnight hour getting to me lol? Thanks for your help ahead of time… Ryan
Some Say That It Is A Sickness, But I Just Ask 'Why Does It Feel Sooooo Good???'
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Work the product until it begins to dry and become difficult to use. There is no set answer since different conditions will lend to different work times.
To answer your second question, yes, simply remove it with a microfiber towel. If it is so dry it is difficult to remove, then A.) Work the product less next time, and B.) Re-apply M04 to remove the dried product.
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Dont forget you can clay also.2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR BlueComment
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I have always clayed the glass first before I move on to the #4. Also if you are using #4 With a microfiber and you are not removing the spots. You can use #4 with a terry cloth towel. This will have more cleaning power. The terry cloth would be a more aggressive applicator.quality creates its own demandComment
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Don't forget to mask off the trim. It'll be tough to remove M04 if it dries.
Check out my thread http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30580.Comment
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So... Clay, if that doesnt work then M04 with a terry of course and masking the trim of course too since I seen it isn't a very good Idea to allow it to get on the rubber or such things. Got it. Yeah I just wasn't 100% positive on how long to work the product, but I believe I have a good idea of it now. I already have the clay along with other items ordered from Rick at ADS should be here the 18th. Next order will include the 04 and some good terry's. Thanks guys big help!
Mr.Haributo- I just got done looking at your thread, pretty darn nice work. Being tight for money at the present moment does not allow me to purchase the Dewalt Dw849 and all the tools of the trade that is needed to make life a little easier like I would like to, but its something to consider in the later part of the year though. This spring I plan on getting a G110 along with the M80 and NXT to use with it. The paint isn't in that bad of shape, just the normal spiderwebbing and a couple very light scratchs here and there. Actually, plann on getting this package - From ADS. I have the Dvd from there that shows him using pretty much the whole package and I loved the results. So for a newbie this looks kind of fun as well as something to look forward to on a starters basis. But until everything is gathered I guess its handy labor until then lol.Some Say That It Is A Sickness, But I Just Ask 'Why Does It Feel Sooooo Good???'Comment
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Re: Question on using M04 on glass/windows…
You work the M04 against the glass until you see the glass turn clear.Originally posted by Chesney09 View Post
Usually if you have some kind of film on the glass after spread out some M04, the film of contaminants will show up easier to your eyes, now rub the M04 against one small area any you'll see this area turn clear, once the glass is clear in that spot you're done in that spot and can move on to new territory.
This is real apparent with glass that's really contaminated and less apparent for glass that's still fairly clean but in these cases if you don't see any easily visible film of gunk on your glass that's a good sign and you don't need to clean the glass as much.
Also, before you start feel the surface of the glass and then after cleaning a section feel the difference between the section you cleaned and a section you haven't cleaned and that's another way to tell where you've cleaned and where you still need to do some work.
Remember to put a little passion behind the pad...
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Is M04 still the best to use glass, now that we have M105 ?
Thanks"What's the first rule when entering a man's car?"
"Respect a man's car, a man respects you."
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There would be nothing wrong with trying #105/UC. They just doesnt have not been out long enough yet to find all the "extra" uses...2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR BlueComment
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What makes M04 so special for cleaning glass? If M04 works, then most any polish would work.Originally posted by Murr1525 View PostAl
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Not exactly. Meguiar's M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner uses a different type of diminishing abrasive that cuts more and does work far better on glass than other polishes or compounds.Originally posted by Bunky View Post
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The different type of abrasive tim is referring to is a larger, chunky abrasive. The physical size (for whatever reason) is advantageous to polishing glass as it isn't polishing the glass like a polish would normally be working on paint. Instead, this type of glass polishing is really glass cleaning. Essentially, the bigger chunks help to grab and remove the bonded contamination.Originally posted by Tim Lingor View PostComment
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Hi Mark,Originally posted by Mark Kleis View Post
They are not just bigger but as I mentioned a different type. If you take a bottle of M04, shake it up and squeeze some on to your finger and then rub it between your fingers, you can actually feel the abrasive. As you rub the M04 between your fingers, the abrasive diminishes, and the compound begins to feel smooth. If you try the same thing with say M85, the compound feels smooth from the start. It is this difference in the abrasive and the way it breaks down that makes it work so well.
Now, I would not call this polishing glass but rather cleaning the glass. Polishing implies that you are leveling swirls and scratches in the glass which M04 can not do. The only product that I am aware of that can remove scratches is cerium oxide.
For cleaning glass, I have used M04, a wool pad and the rotary for years! It cleans off most bonded contaminants on the glass. It is an awesome product and combo!!
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Hi Tim,Originally posted by Tim Lingor View Post
Thanks for the clarification. We're trying to communicate the same point, but maybe my word choice wasn't the best.
I was trying to convey that the abrasive was larger to start with, hence the ability to feel it just like you so astutely pointed out when compared to M85.
I was also going by some posts from Mike Phillip's in similar threads, "M04 works because of the large, chunky diminishing abrasive used in this particular formula. UC uses our new Super Micro Abrasive Technology and it's a completely different type of animal."
I also fully agree on your point about this actually being a way to clean the glass, rather than to polish in the traditional sense. I thought I had worded that part clearly, but I guess I failed again! D'oh!
Anyway, thanks for stepping in and clearing things up Tim.
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Re: Question on using M04 on glass/windows…
Originally posted by Mark Kleis View PostHi Tim,
Thanks for the clarification. We're trying to communicate the same point, but maybe my word choice wasn't the best.
I was trying to convey that the abrasive was larger to start with, hence the ability to feel it just like you so astutely pointed out when compared to M85.
I was also going by some posts from Mike Phillip's in similar threads, "M04 works because of the large, chunky diminishing abrasive used in this particular formula. UC uses our new Super Micro Abrasive Technology and it's a completely different type of animal."
I also fully agree on your point about this actually being a way to clean the glass, rather than to polish in the traditional sense. I thought I had worded that part clearly, but I guess I failed again! D'oh!
Anyway, thanks for stepping in and clearing things up Tim.
Have you tried the M04 with a wool pad on a rotary for glass? If not, do so.
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