M105 & rotary

[blueap2]

I am using 105 with my rotary at about 1800rpm with a yellow wool pad....I am having a very hard time taking out the deeper swirls. Should I be pressing on the rotary or should I continue to do more passes with the weight of the machine as the only source of pressure?

[Carfire]

Re: M105 & rotary

As I said on the other thread:
I believe so, light to moderate.
Hopefully someone will chime in who has used it on the rotary.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M105 & rotary

For removing more serious defects start out with medium pressure, (as compared to really pushing down harder or just the weight of the buffer), for your first few passes.

Be sure you don't heat the paint up so that you can never place the palm of your hand onto the surface you're buffing without having your Flight or Fight reflex kick in and you quickly jerk your hand away.

What are you working on?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M105 & rotary

Noticed you're in SoCal,

While we don't go into the rotary buffer in our Car Care 101 Class myself or any Instructor here would be happy to take a look at your paint and your technique and offer some suggestions...

We do use the rotary during our casual Thursday Night classes.


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[blueap2]

Re: M105 & rotary

im working on my s2000....dont worry, it is not the factory paint. i got a paint job so the clear is evidently harder than the stock honda clear....if that doesn't work do you think i should try the burgandy wool pad?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M105 & rotary

im working on my s2000....dont worry, it is not the factory paint. i got a paint job so the clear is evidently harder than the stock honda clear....if that doesn't work do you think i should try the burgandy wool pad?

Sure... start by doing some more testing to a small section with a little more pressure, just watch the surface temperature...

Check this thread out,
Order of Aggressiveness - Cutting Pads

[blueap2]

Re: M105 & rotary

would m205 be a good follow-up for the m105?

[Nick Chapman]

Re: M105 & rotary

would m205 be a good follow-up for the m105?

Absolutely!

And just FYI, I've never used M105 at 1800rpms. It always seems to work better for me when I slow it down a bit. I'm usually around the 1000-1200rpm mark. When you slow the speed down, you can slow your hand movement down also.

Nick

[blueap2]

Re: M105 & rotary

i'll go ahead and give that a shot then....do you recommend going with the w4000 or the burgandy wool for my deeper swirls....

[Nick Chapman]

Re: M105 & rotary

Solo red wool pad(WWHC7) is easier to use(IMO).
Or just grab some 2k grit sand paper and knock out those deeper scratches, then buff with the foam.

Either way will lead to a beautiful end result

[blueap2]

Re: M105 & rotary

Solo red wool pad(WWHC7) is easier to use(IMO).
Or just grab some 2k grit sand paper and knock out those deeper scratches, then buff with the foam.

Either way will lead to a beautiful end result

buff with foam? dont you mean with wool?

[Nick Chapman]

Re: M105 & rotary

No, the maroon foam will take 2k grit scratches out.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M105 & rotary

im working on my s2000....

dont worry, it is not the factory paint. i got a paint job so the clear is evidently harder than the stock honda clear....

Or just grab some 2k grit sand paper and knock out those deeper scratches, then buff with the foam.

It's possible the re-paint is very hard, it's also possible it's not and this is skill and technique related.

If this car is important to you along with the paint, and you've never sanded and buffed a paint job before, then it's usually not a good idea to learn on something that's important to you.

Hold old is the re-paint?

If it's older than 30 days then it's very likely it's reached maximum cure which means it's reached maximum hardness. So waiting until our first Thursday Night Open Garage Class is a safe idea and we'll take a look at the paint and help you dial in a process that will remove your scratches [if possible], while leaving the most paint on the car.

You can also sign-up for the next Saturday class and either come early or stay late and we'll take a look at it then, at least we'll throw that out there and you can decide.

If you do decide to take Nick's advice and start sanding down your car's paint, please only do a test spot, or small section and make sure you can successfully sand and buff one small section without any tracers left in the paint before sanding a large section let alone the entire car.

[blueap2]

Re: M105 & rotary

i most likely wont be doing any sanding....i just bought a burgandy wool pad so im gonna give that shot. ill get to that this weekend so i'll update then....

[Markus Kleis]

Re: M105 & rotary

Absolutely!

And just FYI, I've never used M105 at 1800rpms. It always seems to work better for me when I slow it down a bit. I'm usually around the 1000-1200rpm mark. When you slow the speed down, you can slow your hand movement down also.

Nick

GREAT advice, from a GREAT detailer.