M80 vs M205

[mtldetail]

Hey guys,

Recently I Used 105 to rectify the paint on severely neglected Honda prelude. Due to the fact that I couldn't find any 205 at any retailers near my house, I poted to use 80 that I already had on hand.

Do you guys think 80 is a good enough substitute in the meantime while I track down dome 205?

Also a quick question, Is 80 considered to be a wax? Do I have to let it dry before removing? Or remove right away and then proceed with GC wax?

[Fischer]

Re: M80 vs M205

M80 is a polish so after applying it, it needs to be worked til its clear and then removed.
Only then after removing the polish, you can wax.

I have only tried 205 by hand due to the weather and still had some awesome results. Its hard to compare the two but 205 is just a lot easier to work in and IMHO a lot easier to remove. You can use M80 in the meantime while you track some M205. Its good to learn about each polish as well so take your time and try to master the polishes before going all over the place.

[Murr1525]

Re: M80 vs M205

#80 is fine while you look around.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M80 vs M205

Just be sure to do a Test Spot with the M80 and check the results before going over the entire car.

Make sure the M80 Step is taking the results from the M105 to a higher level, if not then stop and be glad you checked.

M80 works on about 90% of all paint types on the market but sometimes it can leave haze or micro-marring depending upon the hardness or softness of the paint, the pad you're using, your technique and also the type of diminishing abrasives used in M80

So simply test first and then evaluate the results and this will tell you whether to process or stop.

[mtldetail]

Re: M80 vs M205

I have another quick question. What does "LSP" stand for.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M80 vs M205

I have another quick question. What does "LSP" stand for.

LSP = Last Step Product


It's the last thing you apply and then wipe off and after this you are finished with the project.

LSP or your Last Step Product doesn't necessarily mean a wax or paint sealant. If a person is working on fresh paint and after sanding, compounding and machine polishing they then hand apply an application of M07 Show Car Glaze or M81 Hand Polish, then the polish they applied is the LSP.

If a detailer uses a cleaner/wax to do a one-step detail for a customer's car, the the cleaner/wax was their LSP


LSP is the last thing you apply and then wipe off the paint and then say, "It is finished".

[mtldetail]

Re: M80 vs M205

Meaning wax or sealant, right?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: M80 vs M205

Meaning wax or sealant, right?

From my reply above...

LSP = Last Step Product


It's the last thing you apply and then wipe off and after this you are finished with the project.

LSP or your Last Step Product doesn't necessarily mean a wax or paint sealant.

If a person is working on fresh paint and after sanding, compounding and machine polishing they then hand apply an application of M07 Show Car Glaze or M81 Hand Polish, then the polish they applied is the LSP.

If a detailer uses a cleaner/wax to do a one-step detail for a customer's car, the the cleaner/wax was their LSP


LSP is the last thing you apply and then wipe off the paint and then say, "It is finished".

M07 Show Car Glaze and M81 Hand Polish are both pure polishes and are both water soluble, so they are as far away from a wax or paint sealant as you can get when it comes to paint care products. BUT if one of them is the last thing a person applies to a paint finish then it is the LSP

LSP = Last Step PRODUCT

Product doesn't mean wax or paint sealant.


Does that help?

[mtldetail]

Re: M80 vs M205

Thx