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  • Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

    I am relatively new to detailing cars. I had my Honda delsol repainted Granada Black about six months ago. Started reading all I could on this site and buying what I thought were "must have" products. I believe I have all I need however I cannot stop buying! I recently bought two 32oz. bottles of #84, because I read here that Amazon was having sale on it. I have at home #80 and #105. Have not used the #105 however I have used the #80 and love what it did to the car. There were swirls all over due to my not knowing how to even wash a car properly. I have the car looking, in my opionion awsome, due to this site and the knowlegable people here. THANK YOU ALL!
    My question is what is the differance between #80, #83, and #84?
    I have read alot of info on #80 and #83 however very little, if any on #84.
    I am confused about the differeance between"Compound Power Cleaner, Dual Action Cleaner, Ultra Cut Cleaner, Speed Cut, Diamond Cut."

    Could someone please tell me the "basic" differences between these.

    Thank you,
    Dan Harrison

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    Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

    Moving out of the FAQ forum and into Detailing 101

    The Information Station isn't really the place to post "new" threads. You can reply to existing threads but pleas post new threads to Detailing 101


    Thank you!

    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

      M84, M85, M86, M95 and M105 are cutting compounds.

      M205, M80, M82, M83 and M09 are all cleaner/polishes.

      the most aggressive cut is with a compound, typically after using a compound with a rotary buffer you would follow this with a cleaner/polish with a rotary or a DA Polisher.

      If you have a black car, you really want to get your hands on some M205

      How are you doing all your work? It helps to let us know your machine type and the pads you're using as it's not all about the chemical. Just typed this up in another thread,


      Form this thread,

      Aggressiveness Order for New Consumer Products - This will surprise you!

      On page 5 of the thread, towards the bottom...



      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dedonderosa
      wouldnt u wanna use m205 on a da with a polising pad over a finishing pad to remove defects ??????

      Depends upon what you're trying to do.

      How aggressive or how gentle ANY PROCESS is depends not just on the chemical you use but also your application material and method of application, (hand or machine and type of machine), downward pressure or lack-thereof and time.

      When it comes to the term Application Material this can by whatever it is you're using to apply and work the product, for example if you're using a wool cutting pad on a rotary buffer the wool pad is your application material. If you're using a a finishing pad on a DA then the finishing pad is your application material. If you're apply a pure wax with your bare hand then your skin is your application material.

      Use a more aggressive pad and you'll make the product more aggressive, use a less aggressive pad and you'll make the product less aggressive.


      Make sense?

      Mike Phillips
      760-515-0444
      showcargarage@gmail.com

      "Find something you like and use it often"

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      • #4
        Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

        Sorry about that!
        Thanks, Dan

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        • #5
          Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

          I hand applied the #80 with a Hi-tech applicator pad.
          I purchased a G110 and have only used it to wax. I am paronoid I will mess up. A little more practice and I should feel comfortable with it. I do intend to buy some M205 in the very near future. I have read some great reviews on it.
          I may try the #84 on my truck, it may be just what it needs. It needs some TLC.
          Thank you for the quick response

          Dan Harrison

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          • #6
            Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

            M84 is for use with a rotary buffer only.

            If you liked how M80 looked by hand you're going to love how M205 looks by machine.

            It's really not that hard of a tool to use, especially with a product like M205 and a finishing pad.

            Before you use anything over the entire car, be sure to do a test spot first and make sure you can make a small section look good before going over the entire car.

            Mike Phillips
            760-515-0444
            showcargarage@gmail.com

            "Find something you like and use it often"

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            • #7
              Re: Difference between #80, #83 and #84.

              Mike isn't 84 for use with a foam pad and 85 wool.

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