#66 vs #80 - what's the difference??

[Alfisti]

Just received two PCs from Megs - very excited!!
Peparing for our new detailing business and collecting products for our arsenal (mainly Megs).

We have some DACP but was wondering what's the difference between # 66 and #80? They both seem to do the same thing (according to the blurb) and both are rated 4 on the abrasion scale.
1) So whats the diff??
2) Which should I purchase?
3) and why?

Does anyone have experience with these two products that can help?

[scrub]

I'm going to try #66 today. I've owned #66 for a few months but haven't found a use for it yet.

I have used #80 in the past and love it. #80 is a polish. #66 is more of a multi step in a bottle meaning it has a cleaner/polish/and wax in one step. We're going to skip #80 and use #66 topped with NXT. The car we're working today is silver so we want to try out #66. I will post pics of #66 compared to #80 this evening.

Hope this helps. Congrats on the purchase. I also went with the Meguiar's PC for the lifetime warranty.

[Alfisti]

Hi scrub, thanks for the quick reply.

I asked because both appear to be multistep.
From Meg's site about #80:

Meguiar’s Speed Glaze is a shortcut that cleans, polishes and protects in one simple step.

I don't wish to contradict you and i'm sorry if that what it looks like. I'm just a bit confused based on Meg's website.

Look forward to seeing your results! All the best.

Haven't used the PC's yet. Have to rewire our transformer for 110v - we use 240v in Australia (pain).

Keep us posted - pardon the pun.

[scrub]

Thanks for pointing that out to me. From my little knowledge of the products it seems that #80 is marketed as a body shop safe product that can be used on newly repainted cars. #80 will offer a bit more protection then leaving the fresh painted surface unwaxed or polished while still allowing the paint to release the solvents to allow curing.

As for #66 I don't have my pro booklet here but I'm guessing #66 might not be body shop safe. I think its catered more to hi production shops.

Not too sure though just a guess.

Thanks again for the great discussion.

[Mike Pennington]

While both products do clean/polish and protect in one step there are some major differences.

For example...M-80 is "paintable" and M-66 is not...This means
M-80 Speed Glaze is designed to give "paint shop safe" protection. Paint shops use this as a second step after compounding to remove swirls and leave a high gloss finish, a "some" protection. But keep in mind, this protection allows the paint to cure, so it is not nearly the quality of protection of a M-66.
Keep in mind, M-80 does need to be followed with some sort of protection in a non paint shop environment.


M-66 Quick Detailer is a true cleaner/wax. This means it will clean, polish and wax in one step. It is designed for non paint shop situations like the following:

A) Time does not allow you to do a complete detail
B) The customer is not willing to pay you enough money for a complete detail
C) The car is in good shape and needs a quick clean up...

Keep in mind, M-66 does not need to be followed by any type of protection product

I hope this helps.

Mike

[scrub]

Mike,

Thanks for the info.

[Alfisti]

Thanks Mike, that is really helpful.

Can I ask one more question and I'll be done?

How do they compare in abrasiveness...are they equal as the packaging suggests?

Thanks in advance.

[Mike Pennington]

Too close to call...

but if I had to choose one....I would say M-80 is a tad more from my experience...



Mike

[scrub]

We used the #66 yesterday. Pretty good. Seems like it a good last step. We did top with NXT for extra protection and longevity.

How do they compare in abrasiveness...are they equal as the packaging suggests?

I'd say that #80 will accomplish more work for the specific flaw one is trying to fix. #80 is a dedicated polish/swirl remover. #66 seems to offer efficiency while not focusing on one major step of the process. I chose #66 instead of the cleaner/polish steps because we detailed a silver car and wanted to try #66. I can't determine if #66 offered similar or less swirl removal than #80. Difficult to see in silver paint. We didn't get pics either, the dig cam batteries were dead.

[Alfisti]

Thank you all for your advice and experiences.

Its been very helpful.

[gbackus]

I use #66 when clients just want a Quickie Detail(Wash and wax, vaccum and interior dressing), and #80/NXT when they want a polish/wax job, and if they want the whole shebang, I go for #83/#82/NXT or their choice of Carnubas. I also use scratch x to hand polish difficult areas and to polish out RIS. I think it's great to carry a little bit of everything, it makes for a more versatile detailing arsenal.

[scrub]

Do you notice a big difference when you use #66 instead of the #80/NXT combo? I think this would be the closest comparision. After using #66 this weekend, I like the final results.

Thanks

[gbackus]

Originally posted by scrub
Do you notice a big difference when you use #66 instead of the #80/NXT combo? I think this would be the closest comparision. After using #66 this weekend, I like the final results.

Thanks

To be fair I'd have to do a side by side, but I would say #66 glows kind of like #26 but without so much depth, and #80/NXT is really wet and glossy. #80/NXT also has the edge in swirl removal/hiding ability, so I usually recomend this to people with reds and dark colors(not mention NXT just rules on red).

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

I have found that #66 Quick Detailer is an excellent Cleaner/Wax. It is fairly aggressive, and yet leaves a very glossy, waxed surface. I prefer to use it with a rotary.

As for #80 Speed Glaze, it is a different animal. I LOVE using #80 Speed Glaze. But prefer using it with the PC as it does tend to break down quickly with the rotary. It is very close in aggressiveness compared to the #66. Plus, the TS olis leaves a very wet looking finish. Often, I will use the #83, followed by #80 and topped with NXT. This gives an incredible finish!!!

Tim

[Alfisti]

Thanks for the research and info. Very clear now.

Just curious...why do you prefer to use #66 with a rotary? What happens when used with a PC?

Originally posted by 2hotford
Plus, the TS olis leaves a very wet looking finish. Often, I will use the #83, followed by #80 and topped with NXT. This gives an incredible finish!!!

What is TS olis? I assume you mean TS oils?
Then what is TS oils?