Cleaner/Polishes

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Yes, they benefit from it, always

This is true especially if for the purpose of the extreme AR enthusiasts you use a reverse extreme logic and position it like this, applying a pure polish to a clear coat finish, even a brand new clear coat finish in perfect condition won't hurt anything, so what's the opposite of hurt anything?

You may not see a dramatic before and after like you would with an older clear coat finish or an older single stage finish but the process is positive, not negative.

[Murr1525]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Is it fair to say, all things equal, it would go SwirlX, ScratchX, UC, #105 in terms of agressiveness?

Just wondering if #105 is still considered tops by hand, since I still do a bit of both hand and machine, or if UC would be the top step.

[akimel]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Is it fair to say, all things equal, it would go SwirlX, ScratchX, UC, #105 in terms of agressiveness?

And where would #205 fit along with these in terms of aggressiveness?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Is it fair to say, all things equal, it would go SwirlX, ScratchX, UC, #105 in terms of aggressiveness?

Just wondering if #105 is still considered tops by hand, since I still do a bit of both hand and machine, or if UC would be the top step.

Yes.

From least to most aggressive,

SwirlX
ScratchX
Ultimate Compound
M105

If anyone wants to start adding more products to this mix and ask where they would be placed we'll have to wait till next week.

Thanks...

[Slicked]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

So if DC#1 goes, where can Meguiars customers turn to for a dedicated chemical cleaner with no, or minimal, "cut"?

That is, if I wanted to use a pure chemical cleaner to strip wax, but leave behind defects "in" the paint, what Meguiars product would I use?

[Murr1525]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

You want to leave defects behind?

The key with the new products is how you apply them. If you work them hard, they clean hard, if you work them in mild, they clean mild. So you would just want to apply the SwirlX gently, if you were staying in the Consumer Line of products.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

So if DC#1 goes, where can Meguiar's customers turn to for a dedicated chemical cleaner with no, or minimal, "cut"?

That is, if I wanted to use a pure chemical cleaner to strip wax, but leave behind defects "in" the paint, what Meguiar's product would I use?

Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner contains diminishing abrasives.

For a light cleaner to strip anything off the surface without effecting the paint you can use Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner, (it's still available and will be on shelves for some time to come), M09 Swirl Remover 2.0 or SwirlX

Just apply them gently and you shouldn't remove any paint and if you do it will be so minimal it's not an issue. Remember, it's not just the chemical you use it's also the way you apply it, (Machine or Hand), your application material, (A wool cutting pad or soft foam applicator pad and anything in-between), and your pressure and length of time you apply the product.

If you have a waxed automotive finish and you want to strip the wax off to get to a clean base, then gently applying any of the above product will only take a few passes by hand to remove whatever wax is on the surface, please don't get the picture in your mind that you need to grind on the paint to remove a previously applied coating of wax or a paint sealant, that's just not how it is.

What are you working on? Or is this all hypothetical?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

So if DC#1 goes, where can Meguiars customers turn to for a dedicated chemical cleaner with no, or minimal, "cut"?

Did some searching... for your reference...

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13172

[Slicked]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

What are you working on? Or is this all hypothetical?

Thanks for the info - I'm just trying to find my bearings in amongst the '09 product changes, which is all very exciting .

The situation I had in mind when I asked the question is what happened a while ago - I had fully corrected the paint and then applied #21, and because of incorrect application, I ended up getting some minor smearing on the very temperamental red paint on my 350Z. At that point I could have tried a QD, but instead I went straight to DC#1 because I wanted the extra cleaning power, with minimal or no cut. I suppose the alternative would have been to have done an IPA wipedown.

But I understand what you mean about the application process playing a big part.

[OhioCarBuff]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Any new news in regards to there being any trade secret polishing oils in the new products?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

At that point I could have tried a QD, but instead I went straight to DC#1 because I wanted the extra cleaning power, with minimal or no cut.

Another option would be to use M09 Swirl Free Polish for a very gentle cleaner that will remove anything off the surface while leaving a very clear, high gloss surface behind.

Just apply it gently, or very lightly to the paint and then remove immediately with a clean, soft microfiber polishing cloth.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

Any new news in regards to there being any trade secret polishing oils in the new products?

All of our products contain these "polishing oils" to some extent. These new products are designed to apply easily, stay wet while working them, and add darkness. Those factors can all be attributed to our “polishing oils”. Please don’t get too hung up on what's in these new product as much as the performance of these products.