About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

[Black Bart]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

One other thing I have heard is that some products need to be removed from the paint before you start sanding.
What I was told was that sometimes the actual sanding buries some of the product in the paint when you aren't taking it down to bare metal. It is then even more difficult to remove completely.

Charles is correct you should NEVER attempt to do any sanding until you have cleaned the surface.
Dupont makes a product called FIRST KLEEN this is what body shops use.

As to worrying about what is on you paint that is not a problem unless you take your car to a body shop that don't know what they are doing he will clean before doing anything to it.

The very first thing that is done is wipe it good with a product like first kleen.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

The very first thing that is done is wipe it good with a product like first kleen.

Another reason for this is to keep any ingredient that could cause surface tension trapped in a disposable cloth you throw away into an enclosed container not turn it into sanding dust that can contaminate a shop.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

As to worrying about what is on you paint that is not a problem unless you take your car to a body shop that don't know what they are doing

We've been doing our best to educate people on this for years now. From the fear posts posted over the years it's as though some people think that the people in the body shop industry don't know that cars get waxed over the course of their service life. The problem is not just silicone, it's ANYTHING that can cause surface tension, that is any ingredient of any product that lands on the paint that could cause pant to not want to stick to the surface.

[Black Bart]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

We've been doing our best to educate people on this for years now. From the fear posts posted over the years it's as though some people think that the people in the body shop industry don't know that cars get waxed over the course of their service life. The problem is not just silicone, it's ANYTHING that can cause surface tension, that is any ingredient of any product that lands on the paint that could cause pant to not want to stick to the surface.

I'm sure you are aware of it but like everything else their have been Improvements in products used and like I said in earlier post the painter would have to be really incompetent to not thoroughly clean before attempting to do anything to the paint.

The products used will remove any wax or sealant or whatever you may have on the vehicle.
You would be amazed at how fast a wax can be removed with something like First Kleen

[Mike Phillips]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

I was just agreeing with you and pointing out that for some reason, a lot of people get the idea that prepping a car is a mystery in body shops... part of the reason there's so much unfounded fear surrounding silicone. (But not the only reason).

Think I wrote an article about his about 4 years ago, hang on...

[Mike Phillips]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Here it is...

The Role Silicone Plays in Car Care Products

Wrote that back in 2002 I believe, shorty after taking this job with Meguiar's at the Corporate office.

Man time flies when you're having fun...

[Black Bart]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Here it is...

The Role Silicone Plays in Car Care Products

Wrote that back in 2002 I believe, shorty after taking this job with Meguiar's at the Corporate office.

Man time flies when you're having fun...

Mike that is a very good write up and factual.
I was not disagreeing with you only supporting what you were saying.