About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

[RtN]

I know a lot of QD sprays have silicon in them and they aren't body shop safe etc. Um was wondering if meguiar's has a QD without the silicon? OR any other products you recommend?

[KTruck]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Hi:

IIRC #34 Final Inspection is body shop safe.

Regards,

KTruck

[RtN]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Thanks mate, anything in the consumer line?

Oh and also I just heard that they are not good to use but I don't really know why. I just heard silicons dont allow paint to stick and also not goon on fresh paint and makes dust stick more? So if I use it on my car then I can't really touch up or something later on right?

[KTruck]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Hi:

No Meguiar's QD in the consumer line that I known of is body shop safe.

Regards,

KTruck

[Mike Phillips]

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I just heard silicons dont allow paint to stick and also not goon on fresh paint and makes dust stick more?

How many days till your car or truck goes into the body shop?

It's not just silicone that would cause adhesion problem, basically anything that creates surface tension or water to bead up would cause surface adhesion problems.

Here's the good news, the people that work at body shops, they already know that before they paint a car they need to "prep" the panels for fresh paint and that removes anything you put on them in the past.

Using a quick detailer is the least of your worries.

Sounds like another case of reading bad information on other forums.

If you don't want to cause any surface adhesion problems with your car or truck before you get it painted or use touch-up paint then don't use ANY company's wax or paint sealant. This would cause more problems than any quick detailer would.

I've toyed with the idea of switching my Jimmy from red to black, a huge undertaking and I'll use quick detailers and waxes all the way up to the day I start stripping paint. No fear as I understand that anything applied to the surface will be removed when I sand the paint off the sheet metal.

[CharlesW]

Re: About silicons and Quick Detailer(QD)

Thanks mate, anything in the consumer line?

Oh and also I just heard that they are not good to use but I don't really know why. I just heard silicons dont allow paint to stick and also not goon on fresh paint and makes dust stick more? So if I use it on my car then I can't really touch up or something later on right?

That would depend on several things.

1. How long will "later on" be? Most QDs don't last very long, but QDing and touching up right afterwards wouldn't be a very good idea.

2. Your touch-up paint isn't going to stick to a waxed/sealed surface either.

3. Use some type of wax remover before you do any touch-up work. I happen to use 3M Wax and adhesive remover, but several are available. Alcohol might do the same thing, but I prefer using a product intended for that use.

4. If you are having major paint work done, the body shop will use a product to remove the wax or QD. If they don't, find a different body shop.

[RtN]

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Oh nah my car just got resprayed in Flamenco Black Pearl. And I haven't used anything on it apart from DC1. Im just learning what products to use on my car once it's past that 60 day period. Ah I see so basically QD won't really matter if it contains silicone or not if im not gonna paint the car soon. LOL sorry for the misunderstanding I just had no idea. I see now thanks for the help!

But how about the idea of silicon-containing products making dust stick more?

[CharlesW]

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[B]
I've toyed with the idea of switching my Jimmy from red to black, a huge undertaking and I'll use quick detailers and waxes all the way up to the day I start stripping paint. No fear as I understand that anything applied to the surface will be removed when I sand the paint off the sheet metal.

One other thing I have heard is that some products need to be removed from the paint before you start sanding.
What I was told was that sometimes the actual sanding buries some of the product in the paint when you aren't taking it down to bare metal. It is then even more difficult to remove completely.

[Mike Phillips]

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But how about the idea of silicon-containing products making dust stick more?

Did you read this on another forum?

Over the years I've tested quite a few waxes or paint sealants, (whatever you want to refer to a paint protectant as), and this means applying sections of a product to bare paint, that is the paint surrounding the test section has been cleaned or stripped to bare paint, as in no wax or anything on it.

ALL the test sections, no matter whose product is being tested attracts more dust than the bare paint. For the most part it usually looks like all waxes and paint sealants attract dust equally. So if you don't want to attract dust don't wax your car.

See how simple it really is?

[sudsbyhubbs]

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Mike, it's a little off topic, but if you sanded down your car to be repainted, would you personally sand it or use a sand/media blaster?

[RtN]

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lol ah i see. thanks !! yeh i read it on my forums. and yeh.. thanks for clearing it up.

[Mike Phillips]

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Mike, it's a little off topic, but if you sanded down your car to be repainted, would you personally sand it or use a sand/media blaster?

With my budget I would sand it down myself and do a panel at a time as it's also my main daily driver.

Just put a new hat on it yesterday and after I fabricate a wall between the cab and the bed I'll remove the half cab and sand it down and paint it.




I've owned 3 Full Convertible Blazers and now this GMC Full Convertible Jimmy in the last 20 years and I've never seen a half cab like this. I've read about them, but never seen one. Found this one on CraigsList a couple of years ago and bought it as fast as I could. Turns a Blazer/Jimmy into a normal truck and one guy can put it on and take it off unlike the full hard top where it takes 3-4 guys to do it safely.

Back on topic...

Yesterday after bolting the half cab on, knowing full well I'm going to paint it in the near future I used a UQD to wipe it down and as soon as I get a chance I'm going to re-buff the old single stage orange paint and apply some Tech Wax.

[sudsbyhubbs]

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Is it color matched but just faded, or is it a different color?

[Mike Phillips]

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Is it color matched but just faded, or is it a different color?

It's orange, my truck is red.

I bought it used. The guy told me it used to be on a show truck in the 1970's. (Full Convertibles were last made in 1975).

It's rare. I've never seen one besides mine, I've only seen one or two pictures of these in my life. I'm a Blazer/Jimmy kind of guy so the odds of me seeing one is probably greater than most people and again, I've never seen one before I bought mine, just heard about them.

So when it came up for sale I called fast, closed the deal and then drove 150 miles one way to purchase it.

Can't tell you how rare this top it. There are reproductions of this available, never seen one of these either but they are around $1000.00 in primer.

The only reason I put a top on the Jimmy at all is to keep the front seats from getting wet "if" it rains here in SoCal through the winter.

Has a sliding back window too... now we're talking fancy!

[sudsbyhubbs]

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It looks good on there. I like how it gives the Jimmy more of a pickup look, so a regular person isn't sure if you a seat in the bed of a truck or if you modified a Jimmy! I like that.