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  • What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

    This is a quote from a GM service bulletin:
    "Looking at the side of the car, you will notice the roof and roof halo bar are carbon fiber. These parts have a special clear coat to protect against UV fading and degradation. Customers should be advised that deep scratches cannot be repaired with regular clear coat.

    If a deep scratch occurs, the panel must be replaced. Replacement parts will come with the clear coat applied. Dealers should be aware that even though the carbon fiber looks smooth and glossy, there are small micro depressions where the clear coat has sunk to fill the space in the fiber weave.

    When waxing or polishing the carbon fiber panels, a wax or polish that is black in color is recommended. If a polish or wax dries to a white or light colored haze, the residue may fill the small depressions and it will be difficult to remove it.

    This is not a product concern but some owners may note that after waxing the part has small white dots. This is likely to be a wax residual in the pores of the fiber."


    What wax would you recommend for this car? I don't think a "black" wax is necessary but is certainly should dry clear.

    What about cleaning it up? I currently use M80 and M on my black Corvette to remove micro scratches from the clear coat. Are they okay or should I look for another Meguiar's product?

    Thanks.

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    Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

    Hi Jim,

    Do you need to do some correction work right away or are you asking for product recommendations in case you have correction work to do in the future?

    As for a wax recommendation, our M26 when applied correctly, (thin coats), dries very clear.

    Seems kind of wrong to sell customers cars/components they can't do correction work to.

    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

      Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
      Do you need to do some correction work right away or are you asking for product recommendations in case you have correction work to do in the future?
      Just asking for the future.

      Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
      Seems kind of wrong to sell customers cars/components they can't do correction work to.
      I clarified this with them. They are referring to DEEP scratches, etc., not minor swirl marks in the clear coat. The clear coat on the carbon fiber is special to keep the carbon fiber from discoloring.

      I am currently using M26 so I am happy to learn this would work well.

      Thanks

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      • #4
        Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

        I ran accross this thread a few weeks ago....should help.

        It’s finally here! The new ZR1 is a very impressive automobile. It competes with the “best of the best” in the world, at a fraction
        Rasky's Auto Detailing

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        • #5
          Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

          Originally posted by Jim Shearer View Post
          Just asking for the future.
          Had a hunch and the reason I asked will be announced here on November 4th, starting at 12:01am when we announce new products for 2008

          New Product Announcements!

          Mike Phillips
          760-515-0444
          showcargarage@gmail.com

          "Find something you like and use it often"

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          • #6
            Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

            Maybe they have an answer over here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...rvice+bulletin
            Good luck with your car It is verry nice. Just drove a Z06 and I can't imagine driving something that is faster than the Z06
            If you think it it's expensive to hire a professional,
            hire an amateur first.
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              Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

              Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
              Had a hunch and the reason I asked will be announced here on November 4th, starting at 12:01am when we announce new products for 2008

              New Product Announcements!
              Mike,

              Were you referring to M205 for minor swirl cleanup?

              Also, any further ideas about a wax that dries clear?

              Thanks

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                Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                Originally posted by Jim Shearer View Post
                Mike,

                Were you referring to M205 for minor swirl cleanup?

                Also, any further ideas about a wax that dries clear?

                Thanks
                Jim, we can't say for sure that Mike had M205 in mind (Mike Phillips is no longer with Meguiar's) but it's quite likely that he did.

                As for a clear drying wax, our M26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax would be the product of choice for this rather unique application.
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #9
                  Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                  Originally posted by Jim Shearer View Post
                  The clear coat on the carbon fiber is special to keep the carbon fiber from discoloring.
                  GM is trying to avoid this debacle:

                  Porsche Supercars Carrera GT, 918,960 - Yellowing Carbon Fiber - I recently sat in a Carrera GT with about 9000 miles on it. The car was trashed and must have spent a fare amount of time outside. The rear ground effects were bent. The engine comparntment was showing obvious signs of rust and corrosion. When I sat in...

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                  • #10
                    Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                    Originally posted by hacker-pschorr View Post
                    GM is trying to avoid this debacle:

                    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...bon-fiber.html
                    Sorry to hijack,but read the link above.

                    Took this from the link:

                    I spoke with my service manager and he said that if Porsche was to warranty mine, they would have to warranty everyone's and thus would result in a HUGE monetary loss for them! As a result, I am selling my CGT and not picking up my GT3rs......Porsche has lost a repeat customer...

                    I'll add to that.....A couple of days ago,one of the main directors left with €50,000,000 pocket money?? Nice one.

                    TOP

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                    • #11
                      Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                      I read that entire thread earlier in the day. Crazy stuff. I was amazed at the pictures of the "$500,000.00" car. Water spots all over the place. Probably never waxed, ever.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                        Originally posted by hacker-pschorr View Post
                        GM is trying to avoid this debacle:

                        http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...bon-fiber.html
                        That's strange. Many race car purists LOVE the color-changing effects of carbon fiber. The discoloration of carbon fiber gives the car an aging character. Because each carbon fiber part is unique from car to car, due to the weaving process, so would the rate of discoloration.

                        The carbon fiber panels on the ZR1 will eventually discolor. Everything that is exposed to changing temperatures, UV rays, and exist within the spectrum of time will discolor.

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                          Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                          Just my opinion: if I buy black carbon fiber, I want it to be black, not yellow.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                            Well, if you buy carbon fiber of any kind, it will inevitably turn yellow, or red, or even grey. Different chemical composition of the reinforcing polymer and coatings may change the rate at which carbon fiber strands change color, but carbon fiber discolor nonetheless.

                            Instead of seeing any sort of discoloration as a defect, look at it as a visually dynamic piece of work.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What wax should be used on a Corvette ZR1?

                              Out of curiosity, why does anyone even warranty CF then? If it happens no matter what, aren't all of these companies wasting money and "good" CF? I only ask because you seem knowledgeable on the subject.

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