Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

[HK77]

Hi all,
I've used NXT 1.0 for 4 applications b/4 on different cars and the result is very satisfying. Yesterday, I washed (with shampoo) then use DC2 pure polish to add extra gloss. I know that DC2 don't need to wait to try and I wipe it off after working it. But I was not sure how long I have to wait for DC2 to cure b/4 applying NXT. So, I waited for about 30 minutes and have lunch then came back to apply NXT.
The problem starts here. The weather starts to give problems. It became windy and i can feel some moistures in it. But I thought I was no problem and I started to apply NXT as usual. But it seemed to me like my NXT had changed a lot as it dries so fast and very difficult to work with. If I take very few products, I sometimes have to dry buff. If I take a lot, I can't work it into paint as before I finish working it, the remaining unbuffed areas dry. I also see some dusts in my NXT wax can as the wind blew. I didn't know what to do. Do I have to throw away the dirty parts? So, I just rub them a bit and then continued to use that wax. Not a lucky day. After all, the finish is not as disappointing. But when I take out my car at night under road lamp, I can't even speak for a while as there are so many scratches and swirls on my car.
Please help me. Brothers. I will post pictures later. So, is it not possible to polish/wax in a windy day? Moist/Dry air, which one is better? Do these scratches comes because dusts adhere to DC2 b/4 I apply the wax? Is it correct to let the DC2 cure for 30 minutes or I can directly apply NXT immediately after DC2? Sorry for long post but I'm now just so depressed.

Thanks,
77

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

. But I was not sure how long I have to wait for DC2 to cure b/4 applying NXT.

There's nothing in any of our pure polishes that needs to cure. You can apply wax immediately after wipe-off.

But it seemed to me like my NXT had changed a lot as it dries so fast and very difficult to work with.

NXT is a liquid and works like a liquid, that is it's wet and takes some time to dry. If you're running into problems with it drying as you're applying then do two things,

1. Use more product.
2. Work on smaller section.

Make sure the car is clean and no dirt/dust is blowing onto the paint from the wind, make sure your applicator pads and wipe off cloths are clean and that no dirt/dust is blowing onto these.

[Orca]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

Moist and windy ... I get a lot of days like that. Well, wet and windy! From that experience, Mike is spot on - shrink your work area down if you are finding the product drying too quickly and if curing is a problem, use a little QD spritzed onto a microfibre when removing. You could also try "priming" your pad with a little QD for the NXT Tech Wax - You didn't say which pads you were using, but I like the round yellow pads for waxes/sealants.

If you are getting dust contamination in the product itself, I would be inclined to have a strong wipe around with a towel and discard that wax. Keep the lid on it whenever you're not getting product out. Alternatively, if you like the stuff, then what about buying the version 2.0 product in liquid form? If it's dust on the cured panels that you're worrying about, QD and wipe gently, fold the towel and buff the product off.

Chin up ... try a refined technique tomorrow

[HK77]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

NXT is a liquid and works like a liquid, that is it's wet and takes some time to dry.

I'm using a paste version of NXT 1.0. So, you mean the Paste version also work like a liquid. Sorry for stupid question. Is liquid form better and easier when applying? If so, I would grab a NXT 2.0 in liquid form.

Make sure the car is clean and no dirt/dust is blowing onto the paint from the wind, make sure your applicator pads and wipe off cloths are clean and that no dirt/dust is blowing onto these.

Wow! Then, that area would be the only place, the garage. For those who don't have a luxury place like a good garage, what should we do?

Thanks Everyone.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

I'm using a paste version of NXT 1.0. So, you mean the Paste version also work like a liquid.

Sorry, I couldn't tell by your post which version you were using, (paste or liquid), and 'no' a paste doesn't work exactly like a liquid, it requires a tad more skill to use.

Question: How are you removing the wax out of the can? Are you using your applicator pad to scoop little amounts of wax out and then spreading it?

Sorry for stupid question. Is liquid form better and easier when applying? If so, I would grab a NXT 2.0 in liquid form.

Generally speaking, liquid waxes are easier to apply and spread out than a paste. Using a paste wax just requires a little tweak of your technique and then it can be easy and enjoyable as the old school way of waxing a car.

Explain how you're getting the wax out of the can and we may be able to help you with your technique to make it easier to spread out the wax.

Wow! Then, that area would be the only place, the garage. For those who don't have a luxury place like a good garage, what should we do?

When it's windy out, if the wind id blowing dust onto the car then it's not safe to work on the paint. Sorry but there's no way to make pushing dust around on scratch-sensitive paint safe.

Some options/ideas...
Wait for a non-windy day
Work in the early morning, usually there's less wind in the morning
Borrow the side of a building for a wind block
Borrow a garage from a buddy
Work in a covered parking garage of a a business?

[HK77]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

Thank you Mike for your very prompt and informative replies. I usually get the wax out of my NXT can by putting my yellow applicator pad into the can and then twist it 1/2 of a circle then apply that amount to an area about 1/4 of my bonnet (or) 1/2 my door panel. May be that's too large an area or too little product? Please suggest.
I've heard better applications with liquid versions but I've also heard people say that Paste waxes can give more applications for the same price as a liquid wax and are more economical. Is that true?
For windy days, next time, I'll wait listen to the weather forecast first b/4 my detailing. Tha's more safe than sorry.

Thank you Everyone.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Polish & Wax in a Moist & Windy Day

I usually get the wax out of my NXT can by putting my yellow applicator pad into the can and then twist it 1/2 of a circle then apply that amount to an area about 1/4 of my bonnet (or) 1/2 my door panel.

Hold your applicator pad between your fingers in a way that enables to spin the pad on the surface of the wax briskly. This will act to liquefy the wax and let it flow/penetrate into the foam. Now spread the wax out.

Maybe that's too large an area or too little product? Please suggest.

Usually when applying a wax to paint you can tackle as large an area as you have product to keep the surface wet with wax so your applicator pad is gliding, not sticking or stopping. This size is subject to the above, getting the wax out of the can and having an ample amount on and in your foam pad. Experiment.

I've heard better applications with liquid versions but I've also heard people say that Paste waxes can give more applications for the same price as a liquid wax and are more economical. Is that true?

Oh... it's kind of relative... the most important aspect of waxing a car besides choosing the type or brand of wax is to find something you like to apply and wipe off and then like the appearance results.

For windy days, next time, I'll wait listen to the weather forecast first b/4 my detailing. That's more safe than sorry.

Better safe than sorry... a good rule of thumb...