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  • Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

    I have a '99 Expedition that I am going to be detailing this weekend, and it has some pretty bad oxidation. I've never worked on an oxidized paint job before, so I'm wondering if the #83 polish with a W8006 pad on a DA polisher will repair the oxidation? Or is there something else I should use? I only have a DA polisher at the moment, so I need something I can use with that.

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    Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

    Most of the time when people make a post like yours the problem isn't oxidation its clear coat failure and no amount of buffing with any company's products will fix it.

    The only honest fix for clear coat failure is to repaint the panel or the entire car/truck/s.u.v.

    Hang on....


    Mike Phillips
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    • #3
      Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

      From this forum.... Hot Topics

      Click on the link below and look at the pictures, see if any of them match what you see on your Expedition...

      The Clearcoat Failure Archive

      Mike Phillips
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      showcargarage@gmail.com

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      • #4
        Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

        Oxidation is actually easy to fix if you have the right products and use the right techniques...


        Before - Yes the paint is actually turning from red to white in some places


        After

        Mike Phillips
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        • #5
          Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

          This Expedition definitely has oxidation, not clear coat failure. There are no white splotches or anything like that, the paint is just very faded (like the photos of the Mercedes that you posted, but not quite as bad).

          That being said, will #83 on a W8006 pad with the DA polisher work to remove that, or is there another product that I should use which will work better? I read about ColorX in a lot of the oxidation threads, but I don't have any of that. I have #83, #80, #2, and "Step 1 Paint Cleaner" from the 3-part system. Which of those do you think would work best for the oxidation?

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          • #6
            Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

            In case I missed it, which machine are you using?

            Porter Cable?
            Meguiar's G110?
            Something else?


            Been posting this a lot lately but it's because it's true and it makes a BIG difference when you're trying to buff out an entire car. M83 with a Porter Cable DA Polisher tends to be harder to work with than M80 Speed Glaze, (our two most popular cleaner/polishes), because it's not as wet a product, not as oily a product and what happens is after your foam pad starts to become wet with product you'll lose rotating action and this means you won't be removing swirls or in your case oxidation effectively.

            So if you're using a Porter Cable unit go with the M80 Speed Glaze.

            If you have a G110 then still go with the M80 Speed Glaze as it really works great on oxidation which by the way is what we used on the Mercedes-Benz in the above photos.

            One of the most important things you need to do when using a DA Polisher to remove either oxidation or below surface defects like swirls and scratches is to use good technique and to not try to tackle to large an area at one time.

            So before you start, please so read through this...


            Tips & Techniques for using the G110, G100, G220 and the PC Dual Action Polisher
            (These are all similar tools)

            After teaching hundreds of classes here at Meguiar's, there are some common mistakes most people make when trying to remove swirls and scratches with a dual action polisher. Most of them have to do with technique.



            Here's a list of the most common problems
            1. Trying to work too large of an area at one time
            2. Move the polisher too fast over the surface
            3. Too low of speed setting for removing swirls
            4. Too little pressure on the head of the unit
            5. Too much pressure on the head of the unit so the pad quits rotating
            6. Not keeping the pad flat while working your product
            7. Too much product, too little product
            8. Not cleaning the pad often enough
            Here's a list of the solutions in matching order,

            Click the link above to continue reading the article...

            Mike Phillips
            760-515-0444
            showcargarage@gmail.com

            "Find something you like and use it often"

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            • #7
              Re: Will #83 + W8006 remove oxidation?

              I have a Meguiar's DA polisher, but I don't think it's the G110. It's an older version which has the single handle on the side rather than the "D" shaped handle.

              I guess I'll have a go at it with the #80/W8006 combo and see how that works. Before & after pics to come...

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