Help using M105

[kelvin12382003]

Hi All

As my black colour car has a lot of scratches all over.

Therefore, I was wondering of using M105 to remove them all.

so, can anyone tell me what sort of tools i will need, when using M105 and the steps please

Suggestions please

HELP

Kelvin

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Help using M105

A rotary buffer is a good start

[TxRado]

Re: Help using M105

Hey Kelvin! I made a similar request on this thread:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24405

Therefore I ended up buying the following from ADS:

G110 Dual Action Polisher
W8006 Softbuff Polishing Pads (2)
W9006 Softbuff Finishing Pad (1)
M80 Speed Glaze 32 oz
NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0

Hope this helps. Sorry this wasn't in direct response to your M105 question. I do not have any personal experience with that product.

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: Help using M105

Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
-Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
-Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
-You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.

[yalerd]

Re: Help using M105

Kevin what are you working on?

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Help using M105

ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

+1... I just did a 1-step on a pretty beat up 2007 BMW 328 with cc on the harder side, and #80 with 8006 made it 85-95% perfect.

OP you will definitely need to practice or spend some money on a proper detail... you can't just buy a rotary, a pad, and 105 and wham, perfection!

If you want to get into taking care of your own cars, purchase a kit with a PC random orbital or the new Flex orbital and try out a few polishes, such as #82, 80, 83 with the 8006 pad...

[Tim Lingor]

Re: Help using M105

Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
-Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
-Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
-You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.

I could not agree more!

Yes, Meguiar's M105 is an awesome product, but just like a mechanic who has a huge tool chest, there is the correct tool for the job!

Meguiar's recommends using the least aggressive product to do the job. This will eliminate excessive removal of clear coat/paint, and will in many cases prevent accidental buffer burn etc from someone inexperienced using such an aggressive compound. Finally black is one of the toughest colors to detail and certainly not one to learn on with a rotary and an aggressive product!

Just to re-state: M105 is for rotary and hand use only. Meguiar's does not recommend using it with a DA polisher as it may haze the finish requiring a rotary polisher and someone skilled in using it to remove the haze. Moreover, M105 was designed to be used with wool pads such as Meguiar's: W-5000, W-4000 and the Solo wool pads.

I have used a lot of M105 and love it! But it has its place. Try using the G-110 with a W-8006 Polishing Pad with M80 over a 18"x18" area first and see how the paint reacts. I bet you will be quite surprised!!!

Tim

[kelvin12382003]

Re: Help using M105

Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
-Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
-Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
-You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.

Hi man

Thank you for your advice. I have already tried ScratchX. but it didnt work out.

Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.

All I have are My DA and My Hands, Was thinking of getting a rotary but since I only want to remove the scratches , because once they are gone I dont need it anymore, I am not so sure if I should get one.

Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important

No, Only me DA still not sure how to use it. help

also, Please suggest all the products when using M105

Thank you very much.

Kelvin

[kelvin12382003]

Re: Help using M105

Kevin what are you working on?

hey

I am working on my A4 black Colour

Any suggestions?

Best regards

Kelvin

[kelvin12382003]

Re: Help using M105

Forgot to tell everyone.

I need perfection.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

LOL

Thanks

Kelvin

[kelvin12382003]

Re: Help using M105

I could not agree more!

Yes, Meguiar's M105 is an awesome product, but just like a mechanic who has a huge tool chest, there is the correct tool for the job!

Meguiar's recommends using the least aggressive product to do the job. This will eliminate excessive removal of clear coat/paint, and will in many cases prevent accidental buffer burn etc from someone inexperienced using such an aggressive compound. Finally black is one of the toughest colors to detail and certainly not one to learn on with a rotary and an aggressive product!

Just to re-state: M105 is for rotary and hand use only. Meguiar's does not recommend using it with a DA polisher as it may haze the finish requiring a rotary polisher and someone skilled in using it to remove the haze. Moreover, M105 was designed to be used with wool pads such as Meguiar's: W-5000, W-4000 and the Solo wool pads.

I have used a lot of M105 and love it! But it has its place. Try using the G-110 with a W-8006 Polishing Pad with M80 over a 18"x18" area first and see how the paint reacts. I bet you will be quite surprised!!!

Tim

THANKS TIM

I will try M80 with DA

Kelvin

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Help using M105

Forgot to tell everyone.

I need perfection.

Perfection doesn't come in a bottle. Perfection only comes from skilled hands, a keen eye, and the years of experience needed to develop the finesse to play the buffer, pad and chemical like a single instrument.

Slow down and take the time to learn the DA first, especially since you admit to not really knowing it yet. This tool is very often used to correct the holograms left behind by the rotary buffer, so if you don't have the DA down yet then you shouldn't even think about putting a rotary to your BMW - or any other car you care about.

You may not have been happy with the results you got from ScratchX but there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Help using M105

there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?

haha so true! Meg's has a variety of polishes that will take out many swirlmarks with the right pad on the PC...

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: Help using M105

Yeah, I wouldn't reach for M105 if this was my first time using a rotary.

Here is everything you will need to properly use M105:
Pads -
Solo Heavy Cut wool, Solo Light Cut Wool, W5000, W8006, and a W9006.
Liquids -
M10532, M8332, M8032, M8232, and a protectant
Rotary -
Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Chicago, Metabo, Fein, Flex, etc, etc.
Rotary tools -
Pad spur and pad brush
Lubricant -
Final Inspection M34
Plenty of Microfibers



Do you need everything? Probably not. However, there will always be circumstances where each product will be needed. For example, you may not need M83 every time.

I would read through some of the PC threads and maximize the potential of the unit. Then, step up to a rotary.

By the way, I just want to confirm that this DA is a Porter Cable unit, not an orbital.

[kelvin12382003]

Re: Help using M105

Perfection doesn't come in a bottle. Perfection only comes from skilled hands, a keen eye, and the years of experience needed to develop the finesse to play the buffer, pad and chemical like a single instrument.

Slow down and take the time to learn the DA first, especially since you admit to not really knowing it yet. This tool is very often used to correct the holograms left behind by the rotary buffer, so if you don't have the DA down yet then you shouldn't even think about putting a rotary to your BMW - or any other car you care about.

You may not have been happy with the results you got from ScratchX but there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?

hi

thank you so much

I will try my DA first. stay with my civic.

Best regards

Kelvin