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  • Help using M105

    Hi All

    As my black colour car has a lot of scratches all over.

    Therefore, I was wondering of using M105 to remove them all.

    so, can anyone tell me what sort of tools i will need, when using M105 and the steps please

    Suggestions please

    HELP

    Kelvin

  • #2
    Re: Help using M105

    A rotary buffer is a good start
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    • #3
      Re: Help using M105

      Hey Kelvin! I made a similar request on this thread:

      General Auto Detailing Discussion. Participate in existing discussion or start a new thread with your question.


      Therefore I ended up buying the following from ADS:

      G110 Dual Action Polisher
      W8006 Softbuff Polishing Pads (2)
      W9006 Softbuff Finishing Pad (1)
      M80 Speed Glaze 32 oz
      NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0

      Hope this helps. Sorry this wasn't in direct response to your M105 question. I do not have any personal experience with that product.
      Detailing Enthusiast

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      • #4
        Re: Help using M105

        Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

        M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

        So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

        Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

        It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

        If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
        -Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
        -Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
        -You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.
        Chris
        Dasher Detailing Services

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        • #5
          Re: Help using M105

          Kevin what are you working on?

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          • #6
            Re: Help using M105

            Originally posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
            ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

            +1... I just did a 1-step on a pretty beat up 2007 BMW 328 with cc on the harder side, and #80 with 8006 made it 85-95% perfect.

            OP you will definitely need to practice or spend some money on a proper detail... you can't just buy a rotary, a pad, and 105 and wham, perfection!

            If you want to get into taking care of your own cars, purchase a kit with a PC random orbital or the new Flex orbital and try out a few polishes, such as #82, 80, 83 with the 8006 pad...
            Ivan Rajic - LUSTR Auto Detail
            Chicago, Illinois

            Recognized as One of the Top Nine Auto Detailers in the US by AutoWeek Magazine!!

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            • #7
              Re: Help using M105

              Originally posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
              Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

              M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

              So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

              Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

              It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

              If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
              -Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
              -Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
              -You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.
              I could not agree more!

              Yes, Meguiar's M105 is an awesome product, but just like a mechanic who has a huge tool chest, there is the correct tool for the job!

              Meguiar's recommends using the least aggressive product to do the job. This will eliminate excessive removal of clear coat/paint, and will in many cases prevent accidental buffer burn etc from someone inexperienced using such an aggressive compound. Finally black is one of the toughest colors to detail and certainly not one to learn on with a rotary and an aggressive product!

              Just to re-state: M105 is for rotary and hand use only. Meguiar's does not recommend using it with a DA polisher as it may haze the finish requiring a rotary polisher and someone skilled in using it to remove the haze. Moreover, M105 was designed to be used with wool pads such as Meguiar's: W-5000, W-4000 and the Solo wool pads.

              I have used a lot of M105 and love it! But it has its place. Try using the G-110 with a W-8006 Polishing Pad with M80 over a 18"x18" area first and see how the paint reacts. I bet you will be quite surprised!!!

              Tim
              Tim Lingor's Product Reviews

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              • #8
                Re: Help using M105

                Originally posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
                Okay... Let's slow down a bit...

                M105 is a fantastic product, but it is pretty aggressive.

                So, Meguiar's teaches to use the LEAST AGGRESSIVE product first before going to something more aggressive. Even though it sounds silly, it is absolutely critical!

                Before reaching for the most aggressive product on the shelf, why don't you start out light with something like ScratchX or M80? These two products, though mild, can remove plenty of defects.

                It's kinda hard to pick out a product and say "That's the one!" without trying the product on that vehicle. Each vehicle responds differently to the same product.

                If you are dead set on using M105, here are some questions.
                -Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.
                -Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important
                -You'll need a selection of wool and foam pads.
                Hi man

                Thank you for your advice. I have already tried ScratchX. but it didnt work out.

                Do you have any tools? It is formulated for use by hand or rotary.

                All I have are My DA and My Hands, Was thinking of getting a rotary but since I only want to remove the scratches , because once they are gone I dont need it anymore, I am not so sure if I should get one.

                Do you have experience with a rotary? Always practice before trying it on something important

                No, Only me DA still not sure how to use it. help

                also, Please suggest all the products when using M105

                Thank you very much.

                Kelvin

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                • #9
                  Re: Help using M105

                  Originally posted by yalerd View Post
                  Kevin what are you working on?
                  hey

                  I am working on my A4 black Colour

                  Any suggestions?

                  Best regards

                  Kelvin

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                  • #10
                    Re: Help using M105

                    Forgot to tell everyone.

                    I need perfection.

                    FOR YOUR INFORMATION

                    LOL

                    Thanks

                    Kelvin

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help using M105

                      Originally posted by 2hotford View Post
                      I could not agree more!

                      Yes, Meguiar's M105 is an awesome product, but just like a mechanic who has a huge tool chest, there is the correct tool for the job!

                      Meguiar's recommends using the least aggressive product to do the job. This will eliminate excessive removal of clear coat/paint, and will in many cases prevent accidental buffer burn etc from someone inexperienced using such an aggressive compound. Finally black is one of the toughest colors to detail and certainly not one to learn on with a rotary and an aggressive product!

                      Just to re-state: M105 is for rotary and hand use only. Meguiar's does not recommend using it with a DA polisher as it may haze the finish requiring a rotary polisher and someone skilled in using it to remove the haze. Moreover, M105 was designed to be used with wool pads such as Meguiar's: W-5000, W-4000 and the Solo wool pads.

                      I have used a lot of M105 and love it! But it has its place. Try using the G-110 with a W-8006 Polishing Pad with M80 over a 18"x18" area first and see how the paint reacts. I bet you will be quite surprised!!!

                      Tim

                      THANKS TIM

                      I will try M80 with DA

                      Kelvin

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help using M105

                        Originally posted by kelvin12382003 View Post
                        Forgot to tell everyone.

                        I need perfection.
                        Perfection doesn't come in a bottle. Perfection only comes from skilled hands, a keen eye, and the years of experience needed to develop the finesse to play the buffer, pad and chemical like a single instrument.

                        Slow down and take the time to learn the DA first, especially since you admit to not really knowing it yet. This tool is very often used to correct the holograms left behind by the rotary buffer, so if you don't have the DA down yet then you shouldn't even think about putting a rotary to your BMW - or any other car you care about.

                        You may not have been happy with the results you got from ScratchX but there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?
                        Michael Stoops
                        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Help using M105

                          Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                          there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?
                          haha so true! Meg's has a variety of polishes that will take out many swirlmarks with the right pad on the PC...
                          Ivan Rajic - LUSTR Auto Detail
                          Chicago, Illinois

                          Recognized as One of the Top Nine Auto Detailers in the US by AutoWeek Magazine!!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Help using M105

                            Yeah, I wouldn't reach for M105 if this was my first time using a rotary.

                            Here is everything you will need to properly use M105:
                            Pads -
                            Solo Heavy Cut wool, Solo Light Cut Wool, W5000, W8006, and a W9006.
                            Liquids -
                            M10532, M8332, M8032, M8232, and a protectant
                            Rotary -
                            Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Chicago, Metabo, Fein, Flex, etc, etc.
                            Rotary tools -
                            Pad spur and pad brush
                            Lubricant -
                            Final Inspection M34
                            Plenty of Microfibers



                            Do you need everything? Probably not. However, there will always be circumstances where each product will be needed. For example, you may not need M83 every time.

                            I would read through some of the PC threads and maximize the potential of the unit. Then, step up to a rotary.

                            By the way, I just want to confirm that this DA is a Porter Cable unit, not an orbital.
                            Chris
                            Dasher Detailing Services

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                            • #15
                              Re: Help using M105

                              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                              Perfection doesn't come in a bottle. Perfection only comes from skilled hands, a keen eye, and the years of experience needed to develop the finesse to play the buffer, pad and chemical like a single instrument.

                              Slow down and take the time to learn the DA first, especially since you admit to not really knowing it yet. This tool is very often used to correct the holograms left behind by the rotary buffer, so if you don't have the DA down yet then you shouldn't even think about putting a rotary to your BMW - or any other car you care about.

                              You may not have been happy with the results you got from ScratchX but there is a huge world of products between ScratchX by hand and M105 via rotary. That's sort of like saying you like the Honda Civic Si but want something just a bit faster so you start shopping for a Bugatti Veyron. Not really the next step up, you know?
                              hi

                              thank you so much

                              I will try my DA first. stay with my civic.

                              Best regards

                              Kelvin

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