Can I use M13501 daily?

[ken_ja]

Hey Guys,

I made the leap and decided to order the M135 Synthetic Spray Detailer through my local supplier in Jamaica ($5,000.00 or US$70.00). I know it's expensive to use as a daily detailer, and yes the final touch is fine for a daily detailer, but I love the slickness and depth that the UQD gives my finish and I want it every day.

Is it OK to use it every day or will it cause a build up. In addition I wax once a month, so will the two routines combined cause a build up.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

Is it OK to use it every day or will it cause a build up. In addition I wax once a month, so will the two routines combined cause a build up.

Don't you know? It's not called a build-up... it's called "Layering"




Seriously, we've come full circle. In the past people would be concerned about exactly what you've just asked in your question, and that is will the frequent use of a product create a build-up, which historically would be perceived as a bad thing.

Then in 1998 a new product came onto the market and the guy that wrote the marketing copy for it created the idea of layering only he twisted the idea to be a good thing, as in the more you applied the thicker the layer of protection would be.

Nobody has ever proven this idea works, that is applying more and more applications of a product continually increases the thickness of the product on the surface of the paint.

Besides that, nobody ever stopped to ask the question, if theirs any kind of dirt or contaminants built up on the surface that have not been removed from washing then wont' these be trapped onto the paint each time the layering product was applied since it had no cleaning ability.

Just to point out, most people are working on daily drivers which are exposed to dirt, road grime, dust, pollution, industrial fallout, tree sap mist, etc. and paint does get dirty.

For example, look at this clay bar and the gunk it removed from the paint and in this case the car was clean and before claying we wiped it clean just to make sure the paint was free of any loose dirt.



If you were to try to apply a non-cleaning wax or paint sealant to the car we had just clayed you would in essence be sealing all that dirt in and clouding the true color of the paint.

So we've come full circle, from worrying about creating a build up to layering and now concerned about a build up.

Sorry for taking your question down another thread but your question made us think of the big picture, that is where we came from, where we are today and who knows where we'll be in the future.

Now back to your question...

Is it OK to use it every day or will it cause a build up. In addition I wax once a month, so will the two routines combined cause a build up.

If this car you're working on is a daily driver and washed periodically then chances are that there's enough normal wear & tear that the coatings you're applying are wearing off and thus re-application of fresh product won't create a measurable build-up.

If the car is a garage queen and never sees any wear and tear in any fashion then in an extreme case you still won't see a measurable build up as Meguiar's teaches the law of diminishing returns, that is the surface of the paint will only hold so much product before all you're doing is applying and then wiping off the product.

The effect this has will be to maintain a finish at it's maximum appearance level all the time, but more and more applications won't continually increase the thickness of the layer of product you're applying to the surface.

It would be a good idea if the car is a daily driver, and parked outside at least some portion of each day, to inspect the finish for contamination by feeling the paint with your clean hand after washing or wiping clean to make sure there are not bonded contaminants being sealed onto the paint.

Good question, thank you for asking.

[ken_ja]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

If this car you're working on is a daily driver and washed periodically then chances are that there's enough normal wear & tear that the coatings you're applying are wearing off and thus re-application of fresh product won't create a measurable build-up.

Yup, daily driver, with a light coat of dust and/or pollen every day, so it gets a wipe down every day when i come home and in the morning I wipe the dew off the bonnet, roof, and tonneau cover. Wash once a week or when it's too dirty to QD, and wax once a month.

Sorry for taking your question down another thread but your question made us think of the big picture, that is where we came from, where we are today and who knows where we'll be in the future

Not a problem, i'ts one of the things that drew me to both Meguiar's products and now this forum. Attention to detail, continuous product impovement and the in-depth explanations.

You actually answered alot of questions I've had for a long time. Thanks alot.

[Jeepster04]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

It wont be a problem but I really think thats a waste of product($$$). If you use UQD once a week then use Final touch once a day you will get the same feel. UQD usually lasts a week or so depending on how much rain we get and if I wash it.

[ken_ja]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

It wont be a problem but I really think thats a waste of product($$$). If you use UQD once a week then use Final touch once a day you will get the same feel. UQD usually lasts a couple weeks depending on how much rain we get and if I wash it.

That's exactly how I've been doing it, but after about three days of final touch I notice that the slickness of the UQD just isn't there any more. That could just be me being mental but .

[yalerd]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

Try using Final Touch every 2 days and see, this could help

[TXShine]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

That's exactly how I've been doing it, but after about three days of final touch I notice that the slickness of the UQD just isn't there any more. That could just be me being mental but .

I agree that everyday could be a little much but that is totally your call. I think you should just use the Final Touch until it doesn't have the look or feel you want then go back to the M135.

[Larry A]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

A friend of mine had a white Mustang who use to wax his car every 3 weeks with a straighT carnuba wax . After a year his white car was a dirty cream color. He didnt wax every 3 weeks anymore.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

Its totally your call. Maybe last touch for a couple of days. Then go to the 135. Then back to the last touch. Make your dollars stretch. in a way. But you would still have the slick feeling of the 135. Just a thought.

[RamAirV1]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

Layering or not, in the summer, I normally use UQD every day as long as the car is not muddy or has other dirt that requires a hose and bucket wash. The results have been great. I find that I have fewer bonded contaminants with it and have to clay less often. Tree sap and bugs are non issues.

I have experimented using Speed Detailer on some days and it works fine with my #21/UQD system.

I might add that UQD was very helpful over the last winter though I didn't use it every day, more like once a month or so. Once you get salt residue on the paint, you have to wash it the old fashioned way.

That reminds me, I need to get some #135 to try out too, just because it's there LOL!

RamAirV1

[ken_ja]

Re: Can I use M13501 daily?

Thanks for all the imput guys. I'll definatley use all of it to maximise my product efficiency.