I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

[hacker-pschorr]

Meguiar's seams to carry eight products that all fall under the category of a quick detailer. I’ve searched all around the forum, found a lot of answers but I'm still confused.


I did see Mike's post explaining how different markets / distribution channels has let to some overlap of product (at least that is how I understood it).

Ever since QD came out, I’ve been using it on my cars (combined with a California Car Duster). Usually after a drive to Road America or some other event, the cars need a dusting, or over a long weekend with no garage some water spots show up, and who knows what else you pick up on a road trip.
I haven't used a clay bar in many years (I know, hanging my head in shame.....) I plan to start this practice once it warms up.

Here are the eight products I'm puzzled about. I made a spreadsheet with all eight products with their description. Reading over them all, they all seam to have similar purposes. Yes QD has worked fine all these years, but maybe one of these is "better"?

#135 Synthetic Spray Detailer

#34 Final Inspection

Last Touch Foam Detailer
Last Touch Spray Detailer
I'm assuming these are the same, one is just a foam / aerosol version

Quick Detailer Mist & Wipe
Quick Detailer
Again, I'm assuming the same product, just different ways of spraying it

NXT Generation Speed Detailer

Ultimate Quick Detailer

[gb387]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Yes, they all have the same use to remove light dust and finger prints... some IMO look better than others once applied, example Ultimate Quik Detailer (IMO Meguiars best detailer). I think it depends on how much you are willing to spend and the look you are trying to get. Now where they might differ slightly is that not all can be used with clay and not all are body shop safe but other than that they do the same thing.

There is personal preference on both form and exact product one prefers.

[hacker-pschorr]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

not all are body shop safe

What makes something "body shop" safe?

I've been thinking about going with one of the products that comes in a gallon container, but not if it's going to be a "lesser" product than the QD I've been using.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Body Shop Safe means the product is safe to use in a body shop or in other words in an environment where fresh paint is being sprayed onto properly prepped surfaces.

Body Shop Safe means there are no ingredients in the formula that could cause surface adhesion problems as the fresh paint is being sprayed onto the panel.

Products with ingredients that can cause surface adhesion problems should not be used in a body shop environment, for example a car wax of any type should not be used in a body shop environment because if any of the wax were to get onto a panel before it was painted the wax would keep the paint from properly sticking to the body panel and would likely show up as a "Fish Eye" in the paint, that is an area on a panel where the paint did not stick and instead tried to get away from the panel causing it to pile up around the contaminated area.

Body Shop Safe products are products made with fresh paint environment in mind to keep the shop from having problems with the painting process. That means no wax, silicone, grease, some types of oil, etc. Basically anything that would make water bead up would also cause paint to want to bead up thus not good for a body shop environment.

For the most part, all the product you listed are in the same category of product, that is they are "Mist & Wipe" products for removing light dust, finger prints and smudges. The M34 is Body Shop Safe so that people working in body shops have a product they can spray inside a body shop and there are no ingredients in the product that will cause surface adhesion problems.

A lot of our enthusiasts market like to use it on their daily driver and that's perfectly okay. Some of the mist and wipe products offer a different look or slickness and our UQD and M135 offer the new hydrophobic feature that will make water bead up really well as well as making the paint very slick and clear and glossy, UQD and M135 are our top shelf quick detailers but while they make the paint really really shiny and slick they don't work well as a clay lube and you can't use them in a body shop.

So while all our mist and wipe products are for removing fingerprints, dust and smudges, some are tailored for specific environments and some are best used for specific processes.

For claying you want to stick with a product like Quik Detailer, for keeping your car's paint show car ready stick with UQD or M135

We know it can seem confusing but just keep in mind you really only need one or two of these types of products depending upon what you want to do, clay or maximize paint beauty.

[hacker-pschorr]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

For claying you want to stick with a product like Quik Detailer, for keeping your car's paint show car ready stick with UQD or M135

Looks like I'm picking up a gallong of M135 for my father since he doesn't really detail anymore (that's my job) and I'm taking away his Mr.Clean car wash system before he goes anywhere near his new car. I threw mine away after it turned one of my black cars gray (it wiped off).

I've read in other threads the Last Touch can be diluted 1:2 with water and used for claying, so I might also pick that up.

Like I said, I'm really trying to narrow it down between the products that come in gallons, as long as I'm not compromsing by using those products over the others that are not available in bulk.


Are any of these products available in 50 gallon drums to shops?

[gb387]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

I've read in other threads the Last Touch can be diluted 1:2 with water and used for claying, so I might also pick that up.

I always keep last touch on hand for claying... I really like the idea of being diluted, makes it very economical and works very well!

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Thats what I do. Last touch for claying and just to use in general. When its a spacial deal then I break out the 135. By the way, someone can correct me if I am wrong. I thought for claying you dilute the Last touch at a 1:1 ratio. Not 1:2?

[BlueZero]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Last Touch is 1:1 for claying not 1:2. I use it at 1:1 now for quick detailing also.

Most of the Detailer Line is available in 1, 5 & 55 gallons sizes. However I don't think I've seen any of the quick detailer in 55 gallons. Sparkle Auto is the only place that I have seen the drums listed with prices.

[hacker-pschorr]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Sorry about the 1:2 post, not sure where I read that....

So here is my game plan, use Last Touch at 100% strengh day to day as needed. If the finish doesn't quite have that POP and I'm not in the mood for a full detail, pull out the #135.

[BlueZero]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Sounds like a good plan. Sometimes I would get streaking with Last Touch full strength, if that happens try mixing a bit of water with it. I'm now using it 1:1 and having no problems.

[Mort Corey]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Sometimes I would get streaking with Last Touch full strength, if that happens try mixing a bit of water with it.

It seems especially sensative when it's a bit cooler outside, like under 60 degrees. (Which is t-shirt weather in some areas) I've kind of settled on about 2/3+ product and 1/3- water for my best results for dust and the 1:1 for clay. The little heavier product application makes the surface almost as slick as UQD/135......but for overall gloss and slickness nothing compares with the latter.

Mort

[ken_ja]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Sorry about the 1:2 post, not sure where I read that....

So here is my game plan, use Last Touch at 100% strengh day to day as needed. If the finish doesn't quite have that POP and I'm not in the mood for a full detail, pull out the #135.

That's how I currently do it, and I've been more than satisfied with the results. You may experience some of the streaking that the guys are talking about in cold weather, if you do just use a separate MF to wipe off any excess.

[pcmark]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

As Ken suggests, UQD doesn't set up well in the combined cold/humid weather, so in winter on the east coast, I use Quick Detailer, then once the weather warms up, I use UQD. (I was informed of this by Meguiar's when my vehicle fogged up, and I turned to them for help.)

[Murr1525]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

Been working fine for me... I have must have applied it at about 35degs today, with little wax left on my car, and it looks great as always.

[mattaleca]

Re: I'm so confused - can we talk about quick detailers.....again?

I finally got around to trying out the UQD and Oh my God. This stuff is awesome. I did the nxt booster wax then a UQD wipe down talk about making the paint pop.