NXT 2.0 Vs. Black Magic?

[ajb39oh]

Re: NXT 2.0 Vs. Black Magic?

I bought some Black Magic after the CR article. I also found it to be a pain to remove, but it looks great the next day and beads really nice. Compared to NXT 2.0, NXT is much easier to use and durablity is similar.

I also emailed Black Magic with the synthetic vs. natural question and was told it was a synthetic.

[EPHIOS]

Re: NXT 2.0 Vs. Black Magic?

Haven't tried the Black Magic wax, but I do have the Tech Wax 1.0. There is nothing to complain about, in my part, I am just waiting to finish-up my bottle to get the new 2.0. I know for a fact, without trying it out first, that it will be better.

[nolefan32]

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There is a lot of CR bashing going on especially from people who do not like their opinions since we all know the person is right and CR is is wrong. The reviews are simpling rankings against a set of criteria. You need to decide what criteria is important to you and that does make a difference. I find CR a place to get some useful information on a variety of products. To understand CR's rankings, you just need to know how they judge.

For example for cars, their scoring includes ranking for braking and emergency handling. For the typical driver these attributes are not that important and rarely factor in a purchasing decision. I do not consider reliability nearly as important as CR.

Net, use the information to supplement what you are looking to know. People should not blindly follow anything CR says or your neighbor says.

I agree. People need to recognize what CR is and who their audience is. When it comes to car care, they aren't reviewing their products for detailing nuts. They're reviewing waxes for the average Joe Schmo who just wants to be able to run down to the local Wal-Mart and know which of the products there is going to give them the best results for the least effort and the least dollars.

I think the example of car reviews works very well. They aren't Car & Driver, they aren't reviewing cars based on performance, fun-to-drive, etc. The top-rated car in CR right now is the Lexus LS 460, a very, very nice car - provided you are my mother, who hates to drive and would be looking for a comfortable car but not one that gives her much driver feedback or any of that sort of stuff that's critical to Car & Driver readers.

That said, I want to say (especially since this is my first post on these forums) that I've loved Meguiar's products for years. When it comes to detailing, I'm probably one of the people CR is writing for. I don't "detail" - I wash and wax. I want a wax that I don't have to go to some specialty shop of buy online and spend megabucks for, one that will make my car shiny and protect the paint for a long time without me having to break my back or spend more time than I'm willing to going through multiple steps for optimum effect. I love my car and I want to take care of my investment, but it's not a show car. Meguiar's products are exactly what I'm looking for - I love the results I get from your waxes, especially the NXT 2.0 paste (wow). I love that a couple of coats and I can go a whole winter of beading water (which to me translates to no salt eating through my paint). I like that I don't have to spend hours doing multiple steps, and I get comments on how polished and shiny my car is. That's where my priorities are, and why I have only used Meguiar's products on my cars, ever since the day I got my license. And that's what the priorities of CR readers are, as well.

[Megafast13]

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Black Magic is good on tires, but that's all they're really known for...

[Mike Phillips]

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I also emailed Black Magic with the synthetic vs. natural question and was told it was a synthetic.

But the label on the bottle says it's a wax?







Is it a wax? Or a paint sealant?

[nolefan32]

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But the label on the bottle says it's a wax?







Is it a wax? Or a paint sealant?

Same questions can be levied toward NXT.

[3Fitty]

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Does anyone have the ability to post the article (maybe a PDF)? I think it is impossible to give an opinion on an article UNLESS you've actually read it OR unless you've used both products and found one to be far superior to the other.

I am a NXT 2.0 user but I have found other products which I really like as well (Collinite 845 comes to mind).

The one thing I think I know for certain is you can NEVER speak in absolutes about waxes/sealants, here is why...

In the fall I purchased Collinite 476s, based on information from another online forum (chalk full of self proclaimed detailing Gods) and I can't tell you how many times I read 476s will give you a "rock hard shell for 4-6 months". So, I bit.

Meanwhile, back in Meguiar's world, guys like Mike P would say, "can't say how long anything will last, because it depends a lot on the conditions". So... I put on my 4-6 month rock hard shell of a wax (476s) in the middle of November and on my garage Queen, it's still evident (only three washes in that time), meanwhile on my wife's DD, which sits in the elements, there is NO trace of any 476s and there hasn't been for a while.

Moral of the story... try them both and choose (you can't believe the hype or someone elses words).

[Mike Phillips]

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Same questions can be levied toward NXT.

Sorry for the dry humor, that was the point and also why I included the link to the article that addresses the issue.

If you haven't read this forum for very long, lots of "Online Enthusiasts" get confused over the use of the word wax on the label of NXT Tech Wax because it's an all synthetic product, but read the article and maybe you'll catch a little bit of the humor in the above post.

[Bunky]

Re: NXT 2.0 Vs. Black Magic?

I bought some Black Magic after the CR article. I also found it to be a pain to remove, but it looks great the next day and beads really nice. Compared to NXT 2.0, NXT is much easier to use and durablity is similar.

I also emailed Black Magic with the synthetic vs. natural question and was told it was a synthetic.

I am glad someone actually used the product rather than assuming something. CR did say it was difficult to remove.

Thanks.

[ajb39oh]

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I'm glad I was helpful guys! I'm a bit of a wax junkie and love to compare and contrast. Meguiar's is my favorite but i like to experiment!

[Alfisti]

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I have. It's actually very good stuff, just not as easy to remove as NXT 2.0. I also read the article from CR and they never stated that Black Magic scratches the paint.

If you want to know how it compares to NXT 2.0, I did a review. It's on the old CS forum. For whatever reason the pictures don't show up anymore. Sorry.

http://forumarchive.meguiars.com/for...ead/37098.aspx

The link doesn't work at all. (?)

[akimel]

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The press release of the 2006 Consumer Reports evaluation of car waxes can be found in the Chatham Journal.

It is in the press release, not the report itself, that mention is made that one of their recommended waxes, viz., Turtle Wax Carnauba Car Wax T-6, "can cause slight scratching or hazing on newer dark-colored finishes."

Here is one feature of the report that I find most curious. It grades each wax as to its cleaning ability. Black Magic and Turtle Wax Carnauba Car Wax T-6 are described as excellent for cleaning, as is Gold Class and NXT; but Meg's Cleaner Wax is only said to be "very good."

[akimel]

Re: NXT 2.0 Vs. Black Magic?

A further clarification about the tested waxes and hazing/scratching. In the report itself each wax is graded on hazing/scratching. Turtle Wax's Carnauba Wax, which is described as a "cleaner wax" on the TW website, is assigned the grade of "good," whereas Black Magic and Gold Class are assigned "excellent" and NXT "very good." Meg's Cleaner Wax, however, is assigned "fair."

One wonders how these waxes were applied. Has anyone experienced hazing created by Cleaner Wax?

[mb911]

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I'm sorry, but I think those consumer reports people don't know much of anything.

[Mike Phillips]

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The link doesn't work at all. (?)

No can do. That link goes to the "Community Server" forum we switched to and then dumped. It no longer exists and we're back on our original "vBulletin" forum.