local pro shops

[zerolam]

i found local pro shops here using circular polishers with wool pad appying banana wax. Is it normal for all countries? Will it cut the clearcoat? Will it cause swirl?

[Jeepster04]

Re: local pro shops

Yea, it will probably swirl.

The wool itself cuts the clear, its not a final step pad by all means.

[zerolam]

Re: local pro shops

It's seems all pro shops here using the same method.
how about banana wax? Actually what kind of wax is it?

[roushstage2]

Re: local pro shops

Deep Crystal Wax smells like bananas.

[the other pc]

Re: local pro shops

A lot of “pro” shops use rotary buffers and wool pads to apply everything because it’s simple, cheap and fast. The results may be very poor but they’re usually interested in speed, not quality.

note: A rotary buffer in the hands of a skilled, experienced and quality minded operator who knows when to use it, how to use it and when not to use it is a good thing. A Rotary buffer in the hands of a sloppy, unskilled or inexperienced hack is a very bad thing.

I’m guessing the banana wax you’ve seen is a product called Banana Magic, made by the AutoMagic division of the Auto Wax Company.

AutoMagic specializes in chemicals for high volume commercial operations like body shops, car dealers, car washes, etc. Their products are sold through commercial, business-to-business distributors.

I haven’t tried any of their chemicals but I haven’t heard anything bad about them. I would guess that a skilled operator could produce good results with them.

According to Auto Magic’s literature, Banana Magic is a wax with no cutting/cleaning action. So it’s pointless to use a rotary buffer to apply it and really dumb to use a wool cutting pad. (AutoMagic's instructions say to use a foam finishing pad.) Using a rotary to wax is just asking for swirls. But it is fast, cheap and mindless. A lot of shops like that.


PC.

[zerolam]

Re: local pro shops

Thanks for your prompt reply. Actually, i have asked the same question in several forum. i cannot get a satisfy answer until now.

[Sydster]

Re: local pro shops

A lot of “pro” shops use rotary buffers and wool pads to apply everything because it’s simple, cheap and fast. The results may be very poor but they’re usually interested in speed, not quality.

note: A rotary buffer in the hands of a skilled, experienced and quality minded operator who knows when to use it, how to use it and when not to use it is a good thing. A Rotary buffer in the hands of a sloppy, unskilled or inexperienced hack is a very bad thing.

I’m guessing the banana wax you’ve seen is a product called Banana Magic, made by the AutoMagic division of the Auto Wax Company.

AutoMagic specializes in chemicals for high volume commercial operations like body shops, car dealers, car washes, etc. Their products are sold through commercial, business-to-business distributors.

I haven’t tried any of their chemicals but I haven’t heard anything bad about them. I would guess that a skilled operator could produce good results with them.

According to Auto Magic’s literature, Banana Magic is a wax with no cutting/cleaning action. So it’s pointless to use a rotary buffer to apply it and really dumb to use a wool cutting pad. (AutoMagic's instructions say to use a foam finishing pad.) Using a rotary to wax is just asking for swirls. But it is fast, cheap and mindless. A lot of shops like that.


PC.

Again, very well said Paul!

[RaskyR1]

Re: local pro shops

oops...double post!

[RaskyR1]

Re: local pro shops

Again, very well said Paul!

I concur!

I have used AutoMagic before but not the banana stuff. As it was stated above, it's designed for high volume shops and not car enthusianst like most people on MOL.