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  • Malm's Wax???

    Has anyone heard of or used this stuff before?

    I was detailing a truck today when a guy stopped by asking about my services. Went to his house and he wants me to wax an F150 that he had painted last summer (by the way, he has a 65 Mustang Convertible red/white in great shape that I might get to work on soon).

    He told me that he would supply the wax. Of course I asked why/what did he use? He said, "I noticed you use Meguiar's, but I use only Malm's. It's a little more expensive but it's better."

    I don't think I've heard of Malm's before, but I checked out the website earlier. malms dot com

    They say it's concentrated so a whole car can be waxed with less than an ounce of product - a very thin layer. Of course a thin layer is all you need of any decent wax, but wouldn't you have to use the same amount of wax (give or take a small variance) regardless of what you use?

    The guy said he uses it b/c it contains absolutely no abrasives, as does the site, but it claims to leave a swirl free finish. If you start with no swirls and you use the right process, you should finish with no swirls regardless of wax...right? But if you start with swirls, how can you finish with no swirls unless it is purely fillers? They do sell a polish for removing swirls, but it seems they're claiming no swirls from just the wax.

    They also boast about water beading capability and quality of the carnauba that it contains, amongst other things. Anyway, I guess I'll use it this week on his truck...might do my own side-by-side with 21

    Jonathan

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    Re: Malm's Wax???

    I've used Malm's. I was not really impessed with it. For a carnauba, I much prefer paste or liquid #26. There is no contest between #21 and Malm's. #21 looks better and will last much longer.

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    • #3
      Re: Malm's Wax???

      I'm looking forward to your side by side test, please post some pictures as soon as you are done.


      Thanks
      SYDSTER

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      • #4
        Re: Malm's Wax???

        [QUOTE=Sydster;180210]I'm looking forward to your side by side test, please post some pictures as soon as you are done.

        Should be a interesting comparision. I agree with you unless its full of fillers how can swirls in the paint magically vanish using a carnuba based wax.
        quality creates its own demand

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        • #5
          Re: Malm's Wax???

          I've found that it does spread very easily, so a little does go farther than some others. Some waxes seem to be less spreadable, IMO.
          You won't get a swirl free finish using just the Malm's wax. I think it's more like it won't induce marring, which a "cleaner wax" with some non-diminishing abrasives might. (Old tech. types. --Actually, I get the feeling from that the site that they haven't bothered to "update" with the times. Some pretty old Testimonials etc.) They do mention that you should use one of their polishes with the wax to get swirl free.

          As to longevity, it's not going to wash off in the first rain, but I certainly wouldn't expect it to last as long as some of today's sealants.

          If he's a new customer and you don't mind using other peoples' stuff, the Malm's isn't hard to use. Maybe you could convince him to let you use some of your Megs stuff to compare.
          The grass is always greener on the septic field.

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            Re: Malm's Wax???

            Thanks for the responses. I don't mind using the stuff if that's what he wants and he's providing it.

            I saw he had some megs wheel cleaner so I know he at least uses some of the megs line.

            I'm supposed to do it Tuesday. I'll write what I find out then.

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            • #7
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              Yeah, this summer I plan on doing a wax comparison test.

              I would like to compare #21, 26, 16, GC, and NXT. From the other brands, I want to test S100 (same as P21S), Zaino, and possibly Malm's.

              The problem is that I only have #21, 26, 16, and GC... Oh well.

              Supposedly, Meguiar's is going to be hosting a clinic in Evansville during the summer. I would be more than happy to host a comparison test between these three waxes. Then, since my car is a daily driver stored outside, I could test for durability over a period of time. Just a thought...
              Chris
              Dasher Detailing Services

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              • #8
                Re: Malm's Wax???

                I used to use that stuff years and years ago.
                "Meguiar's, Im back home Again, and plan to Stay!".
                They call me "Blue"

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                • #9
                  Re: Malm's Wax???

                  Ok, here's the deal with the Malm's...

                  I waxed a Ford F-150 - black - today that was painted last summer and has been garaged ever since using the customer's Malm's wax.

                  Unfotunately, it was raining outside and the lights inside were not great, so I was unable to get any pics or do a real side-by-side comparison with #21.

                  Here's my take on it though. It did go on extremely easy in a very light coat by hand with a meg's foam applicator (the bottle said you should barely even see it), using very little wax. There was no dusting from it, but removal wasn't nearly as easy.

                  It seemed to dry very hard, which may or may not speak to the issue of durability. On the areas where there was just slightly more wax, it took quite a bit of buffing with a MF to get it off. I ultimately decided to go over it once quickly and then a second time using QD to get it all off.

                  Going on, it compares to 21. Coming off, 21 wins hands down. As far as gloss or shine, again a side-by-side was not possible. It gave a good shine, but nothing more than was to be expected on a freshly painted vehicle. To the touch, it was just as smooth as 21.

                  Overall, it seemed to be a pretty good product but there was nothing about it that would persuade me to leave the Meg's products I've used for years. Just my opinion.

                  Jonathan

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                  • #10
                    Re: Malm's Wax???

                    Ah yes, the old "it costs more such it must be better" attitude!
                    Owner, Scott's Mobile Auto Detailing

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