question about cleaner wax

[ccr]

ok , my question is,

1)a cleanar wax remove swirl marks and fine scrayches like a paint cleaner???


2) if i will use a cleaner/wax i need to use a paint cleaner to remove old wax or the cleaner/ wax do the job of remove old wax???

3) what cleaner/wax is better, cleaner/wax A1216 or cleaner/wax #6??

[Murr1525]

Re: question about cleaner wax

1. Some of the cleaner/waxes can a bit, but a dedicated product would be better. Like ScratchX, if you are working by hand.

2. A cleaner/wax can remove old wax, though removing old wax isnt as big a deal as some paeople make it out to be.

3. Well, you'd have to define better . By hand, I'd pick ColorX. By machine, #66 would probably be a good start.

[tguil]

Re: question about cleaner wax

ok , my question is,

1)a cleanar wax remove swirl marks and fine scrayches like a paint cleaner???


2) if i will use a cleaner/wax i need to use a paint cleaner to remove old wax or the cleaner/ wax do the job of remove old wax???

3) what cleaner/wax is better, cleaner/wax A1216 or cleaner/wax #6??

1. Some cleaner/waxes will remove some swirls and fine scratches.

2. You shouldn't have to use a paint cleaner if you use a cleaner wax, but a lot depends upon the condition of the finish before you start.

3. #6 and ColorX are both a little more aggressive than A1216. All three are very good products. ColorX and #6 will remove very fine swirls and marring.

Tom

[ccr]

Re: question about cleaner wax

1. Some of the cleaner/waxes can a bit, but a dedicated product would be better. Like ScratchX, if you are working by hand.

2. A cleaner/wax can remove old wax, though removing old wax isnt as big a deal as some paeople make it out to be.

3. Well, you'd have to define better . By hand, I'd pick ColorX. By machine, #66 would probably be a good start.

that mean that 2 coat of cleaner/ wax is a lost of time because the second coat will remove the first??

[Murr1525]

Re: question about cleaner wax

I guess it is a two part answer...

1. Yes, 2 coats of cleaner/wax is a bit pointless in my opinion, since it will remove the previous coat.

2. Yes, a cleaner/wax will remove old wax that is present, but some people obsess about having to 'remove all the old wax before detailing their car'. I mean, if the old wax is that hard to remove, then leave it there, it is doing a good job.

[ccr]

Re: question about cleaner wax

I guess it is a two part answer...

1. Yes, 2 coats of cleaner/wax is a bit pointless in my opinion, since it will remove the previous coat.

2. Yes, a cleaner/wax will remove old wax that is present, but some people obsess about having to 'remove all the old wax before detailing their car'. I mean, if the old wax is that hard to remove, then leave it there, it is doing a good job.

thanks for the info,
i just want to know because right now i use nxt car wash, deep crystal paint cleaner, deep crystal polish, nxt liquid, and nxt speed detailer. > this is for a full detail that i make for my car every 4 or 5 month, and every 3 weeks i wash my car and apply a new coat of nxt, and every week i use the spped detailer but..... recently and for a long time a will be short in time and im looking for a cleaner/wax for do the 3 steps in 1

what is your recomendation of a cleaner / wax??? i have a black car and my paint is in very very good condition, like a new car, no swilrs , no scratches(maybe have but i didn t see any yet), almost a perfect paint

[Murr1525]

Re: question about cleaner wax

My short details looks like this:

1. Wash
2. Clay if needed
3. ColorX
4. #21 Synthetic Sealant

So you could easily do:

1. Wash
2. Clay if wanted
3. ColorX, or the regular Cleaner/Wax if that is what you can get
4. (Optional) - Nxt

On a side note, after your first coat of Nxt in your regular detail, dont use a Speed Detailer right away. Either apply a second coat of Nxt, or just let the first coat set up for a few hours before using a detailer on it.

[ccr]

Re: question about cleaner wax

My short details looks like this:

1. Wash
2. Clay if needed
3. ColorX
4. #21 Synthetic Sealant

So you could easily do:

1. Wash
2. Clay if wanted
3. ColorX, or the regular Cleaner/Wax if that is what you can get
4. (Optional) - Nxt

On a side note, after your first coat of Nxt in your regular detail, dont use a Speed Detailer right away. Either apply a second coat of Nxt, or just let the first coat set up for a few hours before using a detailer on it.

the reason for apply #21 or nxt for the last step is additional protection or for a better shine??

[Murr1525]

Re: question about cleaner wax

Bit of both... remember Meguiars recomends 2 coats of wax for best looks and protection.

And since single purpose products will give better results than all-in-one products, so it will have better looks/protection than the cleaner/wax.

[yakky]

Re: question about cleaner wax

ColorX and #21 are a great combo for those that like the perfect look but don't want to do all the steps. It really is a two step process (unlike some of the 3 steps that come out to 5 if you are a little crazy ) and you have clean paint and a good coat of protection!