Removing Products - Why so hard?

[Mayur]

Is it just me or do my products dry up fast making it really hard for me to remove. I have to use alot of force and its just plain too hard to remove the products. Im experiencing this with #83, #80, and #7.

[gb387]

Re: Removing Products - Why so hard?

Is it just me or do my products dry up fast making it really hard for me to remove. I have to use alot of force and its just plain too hard to remove the products. Im experiencing this with #83, #80, and #7.

EDIT: After I re-read your post....

You are using these via PC, correct? Work the product in a smaller area? Working in a 2X2 area it takes me about 1 1/2 - 2 min to work the product in.

Should you get a spot where the product is difficult to remove go over the area again with your PC and it should be no problem to remove.

[Mayur]

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PC and yes small area. 2x2 maybe 3x3. I didnt actually take out a ruler and measure it :p Ill try going over again on a car Im doing today. Thanks gb.

[soonercivic]

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If your product is getting dry and you are having a hard time getting it off, try a light mist of qd and wipe it off. That usually helps. Sounds like you are working it too long or letting it sit.

[TrufflePig]

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these products you're using don't have to dry for you to remove them.

buff on, and then buff off. panel at a time.

[davisinla]

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Is it just me or do my products dry up fast making it really hard for me to remove. I have to use alot of force and its just plain too hard to remove the products. Im experiencing this with #83, #80, and #7.

It's not just you. I often have the exact same problem.

[RDVT4ME]

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Keeping your pad clean is key.....especially with M83.

[Michael Stoops]

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Keeping your pad clean is key.....especially with M83.

Absolutely. M83 is the only product of the three being discussed in this thread that I've ever had a problem removing, and that was before I got into the routine of cleaning my pad after every panel (or more often later in the process). Without cleaning my pad I found M83 to build up too much and start to dust very badly, which would cause me to think it was drying overall. This in turn would prompt me to stop buffing and start removing the product, but since it hadn't broken down thoroughly it was very difficult to remove. The dust I was experiencing was the build up of M83 on/in the pad. I altered my routine and no longer have these problems.

As for #7 - I apply it by hand with a yellow foam applicator pad and as soon as I feel the pad start to drag (the #7 is beginning to dry) I immediately stop applying and start removing. But my removal process consists of an initial wipe with a microfiber just to sort of break up the surface, then I immediately come back over and gently remove the balance. I can do my entire car and not even break a sweat.

[BlueZero]

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Absolutely. M83 is the only product of the three being discussed in this thread that I've ever had a problem removing, and that was before I got into the routine of cleaning my pad after every panel (or more often later in the process). Without cleaning my pad I found M83 to build up too much and start to dust very badly, which would cause me to think it was drying overall. This in turn would prompt me to stop buffing and start removing the product, but since it hadn't broken down thoroughly it was very difficult to remove. The dust I was experiencing was the build up of M83 on/in the pad. I altered my routine and no longer have these problems.

As for #7 - I apply it by hand with a yellow foam applicator pad and as soon as I feel the pad start to drag (the #7 is beginning to dry) I immediately stop applying and start removing. But my removal process consists of an initial wipe with a microfiber just to sort of break up the surface, then I immediately come back over and gently remove the balance. I can do my entire car and not even break a sweat.

What do you do for cleaning your pad between panels? Are you talking about blotting with a towel, or do you do more? Thanks!

[Mayur]

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Thanks for the tips. And I find #7 the hardest to remove. I had to use QD a few times to get the product off. Maybe Im working #7 too long. Ill try it out today on a black prelude Im currently working on.

[Michael Stoops]

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What do you do for cleaning your pad between panels? Are you talking about blotting with a towel, or do you do more? Thanks!

Hold the DA in your right hand, a terry towel in your left, draped over your open palm. Press the pad firmly against the towel and switch the machine on. Keep pressing firmly for maybe 10 seconds or so and you'll force product out of the pad into the towel. Voila!!!

[Michael Stoops]

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Thanks for the tips. And I find #7 the hardest to remove. I had to use QD a few times to get the product off. Maybe Im working #7 too long. Ill try it out today on a black prelude Im currently working on.

If you need to use QD to remove #7 then I'd say you're leaving it on too long. Don't let it even think about starting to dry and it some wipe off with little effort.

[RDVT4ME]

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What do you do for cleaning your pad between panels? Are you talking about blotting with a towel, or do you do more? Thanks!

I have found 2 ways to clean the pad.

1. With your pad still on the PC, place a folded terry cloth towel firmly against the pad and turn on the PC. That will transfer the excess to the towel.

2. If you have a rotary buffer, you can put the pad on the rotary, hold a terry cloth towel to it as it spins. To do this, you need to have a firm hold on the towel and just use a corner of the towel against the pad.

[Mayur]

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If you need to use QD to remove #7 then I'd say you're leaving it on too long. Don't let it even think about starting to dry and it some wipe off with little effort.

I used it again today with the tips you guys gave me. Came off like a breeze and even better, I sped my timing as well

[Michael Stoops]

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I used it again today with the tips you guys gave me. Came off like a breeze and even better, I sped my timing as well

Hi fives all around guys!!!! I love it when we help each other out and make cars all shiny!!