Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

[kastanaras]

Problem I have is in Australia it's hard to find the Professional line of meguiar products. The local store only has these products listed below.

Fine Cut
Swirl Remover 2.0
Show Car Glaze

If I travel outside the city for 1hr there is a store which does have speed glaze.

Speed Glaze


So wondering if it's worth it to get Speed Glaze instead of using Fine Cut and Swirl Remover by hand.

I think in Australia they only have the 8006 so wondering if that would work well with Speed Glaze, DC Polish and DC Wax. I would use 9006 for wax but not shore if they sell it here.

If the 8006 pad would work fine then I would probly by the Bosch Random Orbital Sander 125mm.

[bernard78]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Get all the above mentioned. Hehehe... But seriously, I would go for Speed Glaze. But if u are doing it by hand, maybe u might consider the Deep Cyrstal System.

DC1 - Deep Cyrstal Paint Cleaner
DC2 - Deep Crystal Polish
DC3 - Deep Crystal Carnauba wax /any other wax of ur choice.

Altho Show Car Glaze is cool to have, (if u decide to get it, u need not use DC2 anymore).

I don't get the meaning of the last question u asked on the pads??? Did u mean that u can't get Megs 6.5' pads. And u only can get the 6' pads...?

[kastanaras]

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lol I ment 6.5" I have given a list to a local store which sells meguiar to see if they can get me these things. The guy said to give him list and he will order them in for me but hoping he can get me all the things on the list.

Meguiar Speed Glaze M8032 945ml
Meguiar Body Shop Professional Dual Action Cleaner/Polish M8332 946ml
6.5" Softbuff Foam Cutting Pad 7006
6.5" Softbuff Foam Polishing Pad 8006
6.5" Softbuff Foam Finishing Pad 9006

But as far as I know I think they only sell the 8006 here in Australia and not the 9006 and 7006.

I already have Dc Paint cleaner, DC polish and dc wax but ofcourse dc paint cleaner won't remove the swirl marks I have in the cars I am working on.

[kastanaras]

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Also if I can only get 6.5" polish pad can I use it with Speed Glaze, DC Polish and DC Wax seeing as I can't get 9006 for wax. I am buying a bosch random orbital sander if the store can get me the pads for 6.5".

I already have applicator pads and microwipe superglide chamois.

I just ran out of gold class car wash so might try out Nxt Generation Car Wash.

Also buying lambswool wash mit.

[bernard78]

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Hi there. Ok TQ. U don't use the W7006 Cutting Pad on the DA (it will instill mirco marring), unless u intend to use it with a MicroFirbe Bonnet over it to remove wax/polish.

Like this, u might wanna try using M80 Speed Glaze with the W8006 Polishing pad. Work the M80 till nearly dry but not dry completely to a dry buff (till it turns translucent). Do a test spot area. If it doesn't give u the desire results, then u can use the M83 DACP. Always use the least aggressive method to get the job done. U will be able to get better results by machine.

I too using the Bosch DA. But it isn't as powerful as a PC 7424. The PC/G-100 can perform serious defect removal that the Bosch will not be able to. If you force the Bosch machine to do serious defect removal, you may end up spoiling the pads (caused by the heat created) or the machine itself. It will cost the foam around the Velcro to tear after a while. Just to let u know in advance from our experince in M'sia.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Problem I have is in Australia it's hard to find the Professional line of meguiar products. The local store only has these products listed below.

Fine Cut
Swirl Remover 2.0
Show Car Glaze

If I travel outside the city for 1hr there is a store which does have speed glaze.

Speed Glaze


So wondering if it's worth it to get Speed Glaze instead of using Fine Cut and Swirl Remover by hand.

If you think you're going to be into this detailing thing for a while, it's not just a one time thing for you, the by all means get the M80 Speed Glaze as it's a very nice product that will tackle a wide spectrum of problems and it's pretty much "Bubba-Proof".

[kastanaras]

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Well can't get pc in Australia and don't want to use rotary on a 1yr old car and on a 10yr old car with really smooth paint.

I want to remove light scratches but my main goal with the orbital buffer is swirl marks.

Also would there be a huge improvement using dc paint cleaner, polish and wax using orbital over hand.

Also what meguiar polish cloth should I buy to remove the product after I have worked it in for #80, DC#1, DC#2, DC#3

Another thing if using #83 or #80 should I just use dc2 and dc3 after that or should I spend the money to get #7 and NXT Generation Tech Wax.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Well can't get pc in Australia and don't want to use rotary on a 1yr old car and on a 10yr old car with really smooth paint.

Makes sense, we didn't know if you were an enthusiasts dealing with swirls or a detailer starting out, thus the questions.

I want to remove light scratches but my main goal with the orbital buffer is swirl marks.

How hard the paint is and how deep the swirls are will be the two primary factors that determine how hard it will be for you to massage them out of the paint. Machines are always easier for this job because they will do all the work for you. Some machines are so gentle or underpowered for the swirl removal step that you can be more effective using your 4 fingers pushing down on some kind of applicator pad.

(No one like to hear that by the way )

Also would there be a huge improvement using dc paint cleaner, polish and wax using orbital over hand.

Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner is the mildest paint cleaner in our line, you will get better results to use Scratch X or ColorX by hand or machine and if you can, machines tend to work better because they don't get tired. (see above answer also).

Also what Meguiar's polish cloth should I buy to remove the product after I have worked it in for #80, DC#1, DC#2, DC#3

Our Supreme Shine Microfiber polishing cloths work best for this, if you don't own any or only a few, the way you want to look at this is purchase enough to make a small wash load in your washing machine because you don't want to mix them with other types of material and you need enough to warrant making a load. I don't know about you, but my wife would kill me if I were to try to wash 3-5 microfiber polishing cloths in a single load, you want about 20 of these things then as you use them store them in a dedicated hamper or something that will keep them off the ground and keep them from getting dirty and when you have enough to make a small wash load then wash them.

Another thing if using #83 or #80 should I just use dc2 and dc3 after that or should I spend the money to get #7 and NXT Generation Tech Wax.

There are enough polishing oils in the M80 Speed Glaze to go right to wax. You can polish with a dedicated pure polish if you're car crazy enough but most people would go straight to wax.

[kastanaras]

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Just got email back from one of the suppliers and they told me M8032 and M8332 have been discontinued and there might be some possible replacements for them. I would need to call this person whos number they provided to me to find out more about this.

[kastanaras]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

How hard the paint is and how deep the swirls are will be the two primary factors that determine how hard it will be for you to massage them out of the paint. Machines are always easier for this job because they will do all the work for you. Some machines are so gentle or underpowered for the swirl removal step that you can be more effective using your 4 fingers pushing down on some kind of applicator pad.

(No one like to hear that by the way )

Thats the one thing I can't figure out is how hard is the paint, asfar as I know for the 10yr old car. It's a Mercedes C-Class C200 1996 (Dark Blue).

When I have worked on this car I have always throught it was soft paint. Not just cause it's smooth but it feels very delicate, not shore if that makes sense but it sort of feels soft enough to where it might scratch easy.

The 1yr is a Mitsubishi Lancer (Black) which has not a single layer of polish or wax put on it since it was purchased. It's my sister car but she does wash it everyweek but it still has some light scratches from over time and also some swirls and spider webbing.

I am suprised how the 10yr old Mercedes has alot smoother paint then the 1yr Mitsubishi Lancer. But then again the Mercedes has had dc paint cleaner applied to it a few times and also gets polished and waxed all the time.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Just got email back from one of the suppliers and they told me M8032 and M8332 have been discontinued and there might be some possible replacements for them. I would need to call this person whos number they provided to me to find out more about this.

Technically the products are not discontinued, but it could be the supplier has chosen to stop importing them. There's a difference.

Thought we'd point that out before a panic starts in...

[kastanaras]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Yeah I should of said here in Australia. I will just wait a see what the sale rep of meguiar australia says.

[gb387]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

If you think you're going to be into this detailing thing for a while, it's not just a one time thing for you, the by all means get the M80 Speed Glaze as it's a very nice product that will tackle a wide spectrum of problems and it's pretty much "Bubba-Proof".

I use #80 all the time and I agree with Mike. Excellent product!

[kastanaras]

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I guess you can't go wrong with using #80 and #83. Just wish Australia had all the Meguiar Products instead of just some of them.

[kastanaras]

Re: Fine Cut or Speed Glaze

Just a few questions which I have been confused about.

Everything I apply with the orbital buffer do I use another pad to take off or do I use a meguiars microfibre.

Plan on using these products with the buffer, probly will just use a few but leaving myself with options.

Apply With Random Orbital Bosch Buffer

#80
#83
#7
Nxt Tech Wax
DC1
DC2
DC3


Now how do I take them off once I have worked them all in and left the ones that need leaving to dry. Just take them off all using microfibres or some with a clean specific pad.